Rangers 4, Islanders 1: Isles Fall to Blue Shirts for Second Time in Three Days

Christian Arnold, Islanders Point Blank:

NEW YORK — After defeating the Islanders 2-1 at Yankee Stadium on Wednesday, the Rangers did it again on Friday in the final meeting of the year between the two rivals.

A span of 2:45 saw a 1-1 game turn into a 3-1 Ranger lead, and eventually a 4-1 Blue Shirt win. Derek Brassard scored the game winner, and Brad Richards and  Ryan McDonagh scored the insurance goals for New York.

“It was fairly even game. I think when they pushed and we didn’t respond like we normally do,” Thomas hickey said. “Their goalie was phenomenal and made some really good saves. They earned their chances and definitely had some grade A’s that we didn’t really have an answer to in the third period.”

Another slow start put the Islanders at an early disadvantage. With the Rangers buzzing to start the first period, Brian Boyle found the back of the net 3:29 into the period. Marc Staal fired a shot from the point that Boyle was able to redirect in front.

It wasn’t until late in the second period that the Isles evened the score at one. Calvin de Haan had a shot from the point go off the glove of Ranger goaltender Henrik Ludnqvist and bounce right to Kyle Okposo, who buried the rebound.

The game would remain tied at one until midway through the third period. The Rangers had an extra attacker on the ice due to a delayed penalty that was going to be called on the Islanders. Mats Zuccarello passed over to Marc Staal, who sent a cross-ice feed to Brassard that he put home and gave the Rangers a 2-1 lead.

Richards gave the Rangers some wiggle room scoring less than three minutes later to make it 3-1 and McDonagh scored the empty net goal with one second left in the game.

The loss was the Isles fifth in a row and over that span the Islanders have picked up just one of the 10 points available.

“It’s so magnified for us now,” John Tavares said. “The wins we need and the points we need, and it’s no secret. This loss, the outdoor game, the game before that. They’re all important games and we’ve had some opportunities going into third periods being in games. We haven’t gotten the job done.”

The Islanders are continuing to struggle getting their offense going. They had 39 shots on Lundqvist, but had just one goal to show for it and the Islanders power play did not convert on any of their chances Friday night.

“They’re making the plays, obviously they have opportunities,” Islander Coach Jack Capuano said. “From the bench it looked like a couple of them had eyes and were going to go in. I don’t think the power play was good. I think that we still got around the perimeter and we had opportunities to shoot the puck.

“That was a little bit of a disappointment for me tonight.”

The blue and orange now sit nine points out of a playoff spot and have three games before the Olympic break. On Tuesday they take on the Washington Capitals in the nation’s capital before returning to the Nassau Coliseum to play Calgary and Colorado.

Getting points from the next three games is something the team knows it must do, but they are trying to take things one step at a time.

“It’s gotta be one game at a time, but you’d be stupid if you don’t look at the big picture,” Hickey said. We need the points, we need every point especially before this break here. Every point’s going to matter. The one’s that matter most are the two in front of you.”

346 comments
haven
haven

HAHAHA Yeeeeaaahhh Lets Go Rangers !!!!!!!!!! We finished your season!!!!

Thats right – WE ARE #1!!!!! And you are OVER Long island.., Finished!!! Done!!! Terminated!!! Losers!! El Malo !!!

Goodluck next year

jepliberty
jepliberty

Whoever is running this blog must be running the Isles PK. lol

wangbegone
wangbegone

Was i the only one having problems with this blog system.??. It sucks.

shamwow
shamwow

Welcome to the future!

Brought to you by the same people who gave you the past.

tomba
tomba

Over 300 posts for a once proud franchise that many fans remain loyal to despite the circus. I wonder why there has never been much said by the alumni re. Wang and what their thoughts really are. Aside from the poor treatment to Lafontaine, I've not heard much. I don't know of any other organization that remains so secretive or mysterious with its fan base. IMO, Wang brings it upon himself with his actions and deserves the wrath of the fans with his "it's my ball and and if you don't like the way I play, I'm going home and taking the ball with me" attitude. He's done nothing to smooth over relationship win fans, which would go a long way. He refuses to do so and we can only hope that either he changes (not happening) team personnel changes and team starts winning. He is an enigma, a spoiled and arrogant man. I've been going to games since 1977, I will continue to support them but I will not be putting any of my hard earned $$ in Wangs pocket until he either:

1. Changes his atrocious management style (not happening)

2. Sells Team (praying for)

js43
js43

What a shame...that we have to endure the Wang and Garth puppet show...It is beyond brutal...And the sad thing is... there is no end in sight...Wang is a twisted person...You know he is not going to sell the team and he just wants to leave the fans out there hanging in the wind..ugghhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

phishstyx1
phishstyx1

2014 production


Joe Mcgrath ( Garth Snow)

Reg Dunlop,(cappy) they dress the same way. Reggie is way cooler btw

 Ned Braden (josh Bailey) wuss

 Hanson Brother ( Clutterbuck, Martin and Boulton)

 Denis Lemieux (kevin Poulin) 

Killer Carlson (bring back Chris Simon)

Mo Wanchuk ( Charles Wang)

Johnny Upton JT

Jean-Guy Drouin PMB bidgeport

dimaio34
dimaio34

Just a side note. Just noticed that Trevor gillies played for abbotsford heat which is Calgary flames farrm team!! Does he make it back to the NHL?? You know Burke wants a tough team and I could see this happen. I live in Calgary and by no means am I a fan of this team but I would love to see Trevor back and if it's in my home town I would be estatic

dimaio34
dimaio34

Oh and if we are out of it. Go out on a nasty note. Sit regin. Play Boulton. You know Martin and Clutterbuck will be on edge. Put carkner in and just play all out nasty. Ruin the games for the other team. Hey maybe get gallant and halmo to. Cause a distyrbance

dimaio34
dimaio34

I would however ship Nabby. Play Poulin and Nilsson fo r the backup job next year. This all gets decided this week if they lose 2 of 3. Then trade Nabby get Poulin and Nilsson together tell them the plan and play the rest of the year out

dimaio34
dimaio34

It's Sunday morning And we are 10 points out of a playoff spot. Maybe 11 if det beats wash today. Also Calgary won last night. Florida and calgary are 1 point behind us in league standings. It's quite possible by the break we might be 27 or 28 in the league. Another losing streak did it. Just punched in the gut right now. I've been optimistic all along but this is a huge up hill climb. Lots of teams will be calling about trades. Still wouldn't do it. We need VANEK. Amac is the shot block leader and has been a trooper for this team. Yup I know lots of mistakes. But who hasn't made mistakes? I'm not for picking apart people. But Garth better pick it up in the offseason. We are one season from Brooklyn and we don't wanna be a last team in our new digs. Anyways I'm at a load right now. So I'm upbeat and looking at ekblad now. What else do I do? Tough for all of us right now. And for the last time. CALL UP ANDERS LEE!!!!!!!!!!

orange2327
orange2327

Don't know if anyone watched the kings-! flyers game yesterday but its obvious the kings need offense. What do you think we could get from them?? Knowing vanek is a ufa with his eyes on his home in Minnesota??

rmreturns
rmreturns

stolen from TSN.ca-scott cullen


"Using www.hockey-reference.com Goals Saved Above Average, the Islanders would have allowed 29 fewer goals with average goaltending in place of Nabokov, Poulin and Nilsson."


just saying that puts the club at -3 differential. its be lower, given the amount of empty net goals they have given up this season. from a goals allowed per game, that would shave 1/2 goal off.


just a little of knowledge worth sharing..

dkdk
dkdk

And that is the sad truth

fan42long
fan42long

@tomba the thing that concerns me is a lot of fans think that it will all change once the move to Brooklyn occurs. Why? Why do we think that a new building will make Charles Wang a rational actor? How does a new building improve the Islanders awful scouting? How does a new building change the fact that our GM is in over his head? So I'm with you in that I put the blame directly on Mr. Wang's shoulders. I'm not optimistic as long as he remains the owner. I love the sport and love the Islanders despite all the nonsense, but I don't see success on the horizon. Sucks.

Don22
Don22

@dimaio34 I would be shocked to see him in another NHL lineup.  Generally any goons in the NHL these days need to have at least some talent.  


orange2327
orange2327

Only one gillies in my book!! Think you can guess who!!

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@dimaio34

ruin the game for the other team,<<...were not a very tuff team..besides being classless and bush league..no doubt we would get the p-ss beat out of us on a regular basis ,other teams would target jt,and some of the other softer  rookie players and get someone hurt.

dkdk
dkdk

I hope that Ratner and company don't want a last place team in Brooklyn because you are far more optimistic than I am that wang cares about where the team sits. He is getting a guaranteed sum of money from the Barclays boys and that is his Stanley Cup.

camb33
camb33

@orange2327 Well theres the question, "what do you think we can get from them" and then theres the question "What can garth snow get from them"......he always seems to get fleeced

tag1
tag1

@orange2327 3 goals in 6 games saying they need offense is a understatement, let's see if their GM addresses their needs

tag1
tag1

@rmreturns Also I was watching the NHL Network the other day and they had a list of the top 5 goal tending coaches in the NHL and surprise surprise the Isles goal tending coach (snow's buddy) wasn't on the list.

tag1
tag1

@rmreturns So who is to blame for that? Who didn't upgrade the goal tending in the off season, us fans? You post items on here that condemn management then you defend them. The goal tending was not good during that early season losing streak and that early season losing streak will cost them the playoffs this season.

bubbamac19
bubbamac19

@rmreturns

interesting, but to achieve an average save percentage behind that defense would require stellar goaltending, of course, that's not to say the Isles couldn't benefit from better goaltending, but the entire defense is an early work in progress. Many of us agreed that this was the year to see what Poulin had to offer. I think they need to play him the rest of the way and make a determination.

shamwow
shamwow

@dkdk  

The Islanders were nothing more than part of Chuck Wang's Three-card-Monte game...

We the fans - and paying customers, we're never winning this one, DK

tomba
tomba

I'm not optimistic either, unfortunately. Unless Wang gets his measly hands involved in another "venture/hobby" and needs the $$ a sale of franchise would bring. Blows my mind what we have put up with. I hope someone can influence this guy or he trips himself up so bad the Feds actually catch him.

orange2327
orange2327

Ratner and yormark worry me too!! And so we will unfortunately endure another garbage season next year cause the same jokers running this club will still be around!!

dkdk
dkdk

He has heard good things about Rogie Vachon and Brian Engblom

rmreturns
rmreturns

You realize that 25 out of 30 goaltending coaches were left off that list... So I guess the other 25 franchises are awful too?

rmreturns
rmreturns

Hiya Tag1: two most popular offseason upgrades were Bryz and Emery. They would not have worked out.

That leaves Bishop who was traded before the offseason began, and 28 other GM's passed on. Snow missed too, but he was in good company there. That every GM would have passed on a guy like Bishop for that price is silly. He has had a tremendous season- every GM would want one of those guys.

Bernier has been excellent. He has 40 decisions this season. At age 25, 1/2 his career starts have come this season. He is also 2 years older then Poulin.

I enjoyed your post on the PK video. Of course the names you list are all over the age of 50, and ain't suiting up anytime soon. You just love living in the past. An empty existence at best..

camb33
camb33

@tag1 @rmreturns Dude, he's reaching now, getting desperate, but its just about the time for him to shine. He can talk all the prospects and draft picks he want, cause that's about all we have left again. Another year down the drain.

dkdk
dkdk

Tag .... Let's let snow draft a dozen goalie before being so hard on him for not uncovering one yet. I mean every GM gets to draft for 10-12 years before being called out right?

rmreturns
rmreturns

@ bubba.. Agree.. Let Poulin play and determine what he brings to the net. As per the Rangers broadcast" the isles have decided to let de Haan and Donovan by big minutes, and live with their mistakes."

Why not do the same with Poulin? Nabby isn't the answer going forward, so remove him from equation, and see if Poulin is the answer.

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@orange2327

I really like ratner...I mean everytime I drive down Hempstead turnpike to the ghetto's edge..i always say to myself....boy,wouldnt it just be grand if I could come here with my family and see a movie or better yet go bowling and then maybe a lil shopping and a quik meal....cuz its not like I can just go bowling  right here..or any town..

tag1
tag1

@rmreturns @tag1 Why don't you go visit your hero madoff in jail then help DP shine his Olympic gold medal.

tag1
tag1

@rmreturns @tag1 I guess he feels like a lot of us that the goal tending situation should have been dealt with in the off season, but you being a shill for the owner and GM can't see that, right madoff?

rmreturns
rmreturns

@tag1 @rmreturns  @rmreturns@tag1 Example Isles are last in the league in PK that is a negative fact, get it?


and the solution to that problem lies in naming players who last played almost 30 years ago? 


yeah TAG1, i get it. why don't You and MR Peabody get into the "wayback machine" and drag those guys forward in time. They will love the new pay scale- and you can hang out cheering for your childhood favorites.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@tag1  what does a Botta tweet gotta have to do with average NHL goaltending?


or the cost of obtaining schenider?

or goalie coach opinion polls?


your last 4 posts have invoked Marty, goalie coaches, Botta, and the usual " 21 years ago today" medicate your A-D-D..its a conversation killer.


tag1
tag1

@rmreturns @tag1 Example Isles are last in the league in PK that is a negative fact, get it?

tag1
tag1

@rmreturns Botta's tweet states that snow had a "brutal offseason", something you won't admit, and you don't know what that has to do with the goal tending situation?


You can't be this dumb, I hope you are just playing stupid.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@tag1  TAG1--Marty is 40 years old, and has the same number of starts as schneider.


If Marty isn't expecting to be phased out, then Marty is a fool. Thats about far as my worries about the Devils go. But this being an Isles thread, and your ability to wander everywhere being legendary- what can i expect.


TAG1- you realize this started over goalies making save percentages. now you want to turn it into something bigger( are you climbing up on a cross again?), because you can't stay on subject. I'm  not certain how Botta's tweet has to deal with Isles goaltending, but you'll find a way to tie anything negative about your favorite team into the discussion. Cause your THAT KINDA FAN!


Kudos on making a post without actually referring back 30+ years. thats real progress for you.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@tag1 @rmreturns  Ah, these lists are opinions, unless there is a formula proving how these coaches have made the goalies better. Its an opinion poll TAG1. 

Just like the guys who rate prospects. Its an opinion poll.

But i do like your need to go "21 years in the past". every post, you gotta look to the past with longing. tough way to live.

tag1
tag1

@rmreturns @tag1@dkdk If a guy is looking to be a #1 goalie why would he go to a team that already has one. Look how Marty is pouting in NJ because he is being replaced by Schneider and once again teams have budget's they don't want to waste money on players they don't need. You can't face the fact and admit your pal snow failed this off season. This was tweeted by Botta before:


"Yes, I'm well aware Strome demotion isn't the primary reason Isles remain out of the playoff hunt. Snow had a brutal offseason."

Go tell him your list of excuses for snow this off season and see what he tells you.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@tag1 @rmreturns @dkdk  what, and who are you writing about?


you have a problem with trading for Bishop, even if you lack a glaring need?

2010- Ben Bishop made an NHL salary of $850,000

2011- Ben Bishop took a RFA PAY CUT, to an NHL salary of $600,000

2012- ben bishop took a RFA salary of $650,000..


At this point, Ben Bishop is a salary cap busting player.. TAG- math isn't your strong point. The trick is discovering Bishop is the real deal, and getting him on the cheap. Bishop was moved for a fourth rd pick..Its a great move to get him- and a crime to trade him for so little.


yeah, he was a recognized superstar- he just didn't feel like getting paid TAG1.


The next two seasons, he's pulling down $2.2 and $2.4 million.. 

SO- Ben Bishop doesn't like getting paid. Or Stevie Y has himself an incredible deal on Ben Bishop because he's gotten an superior NHL goalie for next to nothing-in terms of trade cost and salary cost.


Thats called a winning strategy.. 

Stop writing about the 'Canes goalie like he's the savior. He is making $600,000  because that is all he is worth. He signed a UFA contract, ANYBODY could have him, nobody wanted him. $600,000 isn't budget busting numbers..

tag1
tag1

@rmreturns @tag1 Opinions on prospect pools is SPECULATION, these list's are facts and are a indication on how good or bad a job the organization is doing, judging by their track record over the past 21 years, not so good.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@tag1 @rmreturns  Given the Isles place in the Standings, they should be in a lot of bottom of the league lists.

i do enjoy that you, as a fan of the team, enjoy pointing out all the negative lists while not celebrating how strong and highly ranked the prospect pool is rated. 


How many of the players on the current NHL roster are under the age of 25- that would be eleven players. 

That 3 of them are centers, not counting Strome in the AHL who makes all four centers.


That 4 of them are defenders- de Haan, Dono, Hammer and Hickey- not including the beast know as Reinhart.


You keep dwelling on the downside, i prefer to spend my time looking forward with a STRONG cast of players under the age of 25, in important positions, locked up long term.

i can also mange to get by with MM and JB- both under 25, and CC, Grabs and KO who are 25 or 26 years old.


tag1
tag1

@rmreturns @dkdk That's a great strategy you have there considering there's a salary cap and teams have budgets, pick up players you don't need.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@dkdk  so your position is that if you don't need a defender, but you can get a great one for next to nothing, you don't get him?


if you have enough forwards, but you can get another one for far less then he is worth, you don't get him?


IF you have a great goaltender, and a solid backup, you don't get Ben Bishop for a meh wing and fourth rd pick because you don't need a guy like Ben Bishop.


You like buying high, and ignoring value? 


as for real goalie prospects- Bishop is 27. At age 25, two years ago- you didn't know his name. Poulin is age 23.


tag1
tag1

@dkdk Players that we need dk are just supposed to appear out of thin air, don't you know that by now, this GM is not responsible for the personnel on this team.

dkdk
dkdk

@tag and @rm .....

Just wanted to note some fuzzy math which is a strong suit of wang mind you. But how can it be claimed 28 other teams missed on Bishop when probably 24-25 didn't need a goalie? If fact a couple have 3 goalies.

Khodobun has been stellar also which was not noted as well.

And not to be too realistic or anything but maybe after 7 years we could have had a real goalie prospect in our system already?

tag1
tag1

@rmreturns It seems anytime the Isles make a top 5 or top 10 list under this regime it's a negative list, I highly doubt snow's buddy is a well respected coach around the league but I'm sure you feel he's doing a wonderful job.

tag1
tag1

@rmreturns @tag1 I don't know of any Isles fan who thought that DP had won a gold medal in his career until you came along, for a know it all you really are a clown.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@tag1 @rmreturns  oh, Madoff and RdP..

well, its better then going back " 21 years". 

your a sad little man TAG1, yearning for glory that has come and gone. Packing a blinding hatred for Wang, Snow, Cappy and the management of a team you love. If the team fails, your angry at the failure- but love to point out on the short comings while clinging to the "good olde days" Springsteen does sing it better.


You cuddle up with your forwards on the PK, Marty is feeling disrespected,your goalie coach list's that are more fact then prospect lists, and enjoy the Super Bowl..


I am just looking for a goalie who can be NHL average. which is where the all started.



tag1
tag1

@rmreturns @tag1 You're the one who brought up the other response on another thread madoff, now go help DP shine his Olympic gold medal that you said he won. hahaha moron.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@tag1 @rmreturns


the post of TAG1- "You forgot Schneider put him on the Isles this season and they are probably in a playoff spot right now, once again you make excuses for snow, what else is new.


I have no clue what you mean with your last paragraph, maybe you should have posted your response there so I could tell what you are blabbering about.


thats your post..


below is your response to my asking you: how much Schneider cost, 

and the Isles defense is off the hook?


TAG1: I was making a point about how forwards can be more important then D men at killing penalties which obviously went over your head and can you blame me and others for living in the past considering the crap we have been force fed by inept and corrupt ownership the past 21 years?


forwards, forwards. writing about goaltending, and the a question about what it would cost to obtain schneider, and go write about forwards. incoherent.. enjoy the game...


and you went "21 years". almost 2 posts in a row without living two decades in the past.. enjoyed the exchange- your always good for a laugh.

forwards...heheheheheh

tag1
tag1

@rmreturns @tag1 I was making a point about how forwards can be more important then D men at killing penalties which obviously went over your head and can you blame me and others for living in the past considering the crap we have been force fed by inept and corrupt ownership the past 21 years?


Yes with above average goal tending the Isles would be in a playoff spot and if you're blaming the D well that's on the GM just like the goal tending either way your boy snow loses.


I would have needed the contact info for the Vancouver GM (which snow has) in order to have made a deal with him and to see what he would have settled for, not my job to make trades and fill needs that's snows job.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@tag1 @rmreturns

a) What was the cost to obtain Schneider?

b) so your position is the Isles aren't the playoffs because of bad goaltending? 

The defense is off the hook? 

C) the PK comment was in response to your usual- way back 40 years ago the Isles had great PK players on that team that won 4 Cups in a row. Living in the past..

tag1
tag1

@rmreturns You forgot Schneider put him on the Isles this season and they are probably in a playoff spot right now, once again you make excuses for snow, what else is new.


  I have no clue what you mean with your last paragraph, maybe you should have posted your response there so I could tell what you are blabbering about.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@ Camb- hey, nice to read you. Make certain to insult my avatar.. Moving past your finest moment, I'd say the strides KO has taken( you had a few choice posts about him last season before the playoffs), along with Nelson, CdH( you did love writing he was a bust), Donovan at the NHL level was excellent news. Strome, Lee and Sundstrom all look good at the AHL level. They could be here next season. Reinhart has been awesome, he should be here next season.

Last season the Isles were the 8 seed. I was hoping they would make the playoffs as a higher seed, maybe even win a round. I think that is realistic. What were you expecting?

I'm unhappy with the record, very happy at the steps some of the younger players have taken.. I don't get desperate over exchanging ideas on a hockey web site. That choice of words says more about you, then it ever could about me.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@sham..wow, your still playing measurement games? Please count me out of the game- especially the actual measuring process. That could one of most self defeating posts I have read in quite some time.

Hope you enjoyed the game.. Again, i am sorry. But the idea of somebody measuring me up is distasteful- especially a strange guy like you who appears to enthusiastic for the task.. So not my thing.

shamwow
shamwow

@rmreturns @shamwow @mitchfritz  

And my vocabulary isn't the only thing bigger than yours, RM.

More Guinness, less rehashing propaganda, and RM might not be such a dull boy.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@shamwow @rmreturns @mitchfritz  Hey Sham- nice to read you before i logged off. Good to see where ever i go, you are willing to follow.


you know what they say about the dog that follows- his view is always the same.. Did i miss any spots after cleaning up from my morning glory?


enjoy the game..Guinness tonight, frosted pint glass. 


fugue state- look at the big vocab on sham..

shamwow
shamwow

@rmreturns @shamwow @mitchfritz  

Slapped a troll, did you RM?

Another pineapple infused vodka induced fugue state, huh?

You're nothing if not predictable...

Next time, while nursing at Daddy Wang's teat, request employer provided health care.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@mitchfritz @rmreturns  no worries MITCH. we disagree on somethings- and those disagreements can be sharp at times.

here,i agree with you 100%.

But i am a firm believer in overripe prospects. I most cases, I prefer youthful upside over a guy who is over the age of 30- on the downside getting over paid.


Its a cap league, and this is a team that on its best days hopefully will be in the upper middle on the salary cap range. So it will usually be youth over age, RFA over UFA.


Enjoy the Game- I'm gonna read a few responses from my fan club( DK, TAG, SHAM, CAMB) before i settle in for the game.


'Hawks over Bronco's- great defense beats great offense..

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@rmreturns @mitchfritz

ok...my bad I read it as you were saying I wanted to give up on poulin...

I agree theres a quality nhl goalie in there...right now I see a kid who's been shuffled up and down and has sat on the isles bench a lot...his mistakes are all fixable ,its all positioning and angles..he just needs to play a lot...and not be asked to carry an nhl club yet...

btw billy smith didn't develop till he was 25....

rmreturns
rmreturns

@shamwow @mitchfritz @rmreturns  Wow, bringing up a guy from 10 years ago. Maybe you can roll with the comparisons of great Isles players from 40 years ago. We have one guy that lives there, you could join him.  

Would a brief review of your comments have you whining about not bringing up 19 year old Reinhart. Maybe a few daggers about letting Strome rust in the AHL.  Your a transparent troll, but sometimes i  have to slap a troll to keep in practice. Thanks for following my posts, i enjoy the stalking. 

rmreturns
rmreturns

@mitchfritz @rmreturns  no reason to rush Poulin... i totally forgot Poulin didn't hasn't had a full season in the AHL- hence the "my bad comment". Mitch- your 100% right. He needs more time. 


My comment about the need to dump him was pure sarcasm towards folks ready to write him off. I'm not one of them. I think there is an NHL class goaltender waiting to emerge. 


Varley in Colorado will be 26 next season. That guy was kicked around a ton before finding his game.

Bishop in Tampa, currently 27. Everybody complaining the Isles missed out on Bishop, are also the same folks ready to cut bait on guys not even age 25 on the Isles roster.

The guys in Toronto- one is 25, the other will be 26 in a month. Bernier has more starts this season, then in any single NHL season in his career.


But for the rest of season, Poulin should get more starts then a typical NHL backup.

as for goalie depth, the more the merrier. 


Nilisson had a strong game last night. like Poulin and most of the team, his game is up and down. The other guy in Europe is having a fine season too. But its a different game there given the wider ice. 

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@mitchfritz @rmreturns

also why is it the islanders cant have depth in goal? why cant you have a current nhl goalie, a good back up and a top prospect? why is it they can only have a prospect?,

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@rmreturns

rm..your a guy who like his prospects "over ripe"..you have patience with everyone..whats the rush with poulin..?

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@rmreturns

hey im not saying write him off in any way...he's just very raw..and as you said needs games ..I think it would be better for him to work on basics down there..i understand rookie mistakes learning curves and all that.. but this kid needs more preperation

shamwow
shamwow

@mitchfritz @rmreturns  

What a novel concept, actually allowing for players to excel in the minor-leagues before promotion to the NHL...

But, from the "Organization" that gave you the spectacle of DiPietro "Working off rust" for 3 years, you should expect a few seasons of Poulin "Learning the ropes" in the NHL

rmreturns
rmreturns

@ Mitch.. Fair points.. Your right, never did have a full AHL season. Bad on me. He needs starts, so why did they keep him up here all season? Snow usually gets the kids lotsa AHL time. That's not his way of operating.

Yep, definitely time to write Poulin off as a failure, and move along to next off season's high price guy. Enjoy the Super Bowl tonight. Just two choices, bad and worse...

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@rmreturns

poulins not ready to give him a shot...he needs work on fundamentals ,positioning,angles,and he flops to much...he's way to raw to be given a legit shot...he's never had a full year in ahl..that's what he needs a good solid year as the starter in bp...then see if he has what it takes.