Flyers 6 (EN), Islanders 4: Third Period Meltdown to Finish Good Road Trip

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Heading into the third up one on a divisional opponent that they are chasing in the standings, the Islanders sorely needed two points and, if possible, to take those two points in regulation. In the end, the Islanders got nothing. They’ll get nothing and like it.

The team finished 4-2 on the six game roadie, certainly a good mark but not what they needed as they continue to chase in the Metro Division. After tonight’s game, they sit seven back of Columbus for the 8th playoff spot and on top of that, the Blue Jackets have two extra games to play. They closed three points over the course of the road trip but that could have been four or, with one more good period, five. 

Tonight’s game was a back and forth game with both goalies coming up short at times. The Islanders would jump out quickly to a 2-0 lead in the first period off goals from John Tavares and Cal Clutterbuck.

For Clutterbuck it was a short-handed marker, his seventh goal of the year and third shortie of the season as well (not to bring up a sore subject, but the MSG broadcast team note that former Islander Nino Niederreiter is only outscoring the not-so-offensively-gifted Clutterbuck by two, in six more games). Somewhere, Garik is smiling.

Philly would battle back quickly off two first period goals from Andrej Meszaros and they got some help from Kevin Poulin. Meszaros’ first goal was from an insane angle, through Poulin’s five-hole. It actually reminds me of a cheat spot that used to be in the original EA Sports hockey game; skate straight up the left wing and throw it on net, somehow it goes in.

Tied at two after one period, the scoring kept coming in the middle frame and the Flyers would take their first lead of the game about three minutes in. Adam Hall tipped in a point shot from Mark Streit to put the home team in front.

In the latter ten minutes of the second period the Flyers would run into trouble with their newly-extended netminder. Steve Mason, who signed a three-year contract extension earlier in the day, gave up two goals in three minutes of the third and got yanked by coach Craig Berube. Mason would finish the night with only 20 saves on 24 shots, a bad omen for the new deal.

For the Islanders, it was Brock Nelson and Brian Strait with deflection goals to put the Islanders back in the lead, 4-3. Nelson tipped in a point shot from Calvin de Haan and Strait’s shot appeared to re-direct off a Flyer in front.

If this one went to overtime tied at 4-4 and was decided one way or the other in the shootout, in the grand scheme of things, it wouldn’t be too bad. The Islanders would find a way to finish out a 4-1 road trip with a point or two in Philly.

But of course, it wasn’t quite so easy.

It was a literally implosion in the third that saw the team back on their heels for the entire twenty minutes, with no answers for what the Flyers were doing. All of a sudden, it was back to looking like the version of the Islanders that lost 10-games in a row in November/December.

Out shot 14-2 in the third is meekingly going away when you’re down a couple goals, not how a team should play when they’re up one. Not only that, but the Islanders had only four shot attempts in the third (Flyers had 17). Only four pucks went towards backup netminder Ray Emery in the third (.896 SVP!).

For the tying goal, the Islanders first line got beasted in their own zone. Tic-tac-toe passing from the Flyers top line beat Poulin side-to-side on a beautiful cross-ice feed from Claude Giroux to Jakob Voracek, reminiscent of something usually seen from the Islanders top three.

To put the Flyers ahead, Giroux and Michael Raffl broke in two-on-two and caught Poulin well out of position. It’s not fair to put the whole game on Poulin — the offense literally did nothing in the third — but this goal was horrendous positioning by any stretch. The Flyers would add one on the empty net later on, and that was all she wrote.

Both teams will be back at it at the Coliseum on Monday at 1pm.




203 comments
TonyM
TonyM

     Wang wants a lackey for a GM and Snow fits the bill! But at least hire a real coach. The recent winning streak was in spite of Capuano not because of him! Holds on to timeouts like there costing him money. Should have called timeout after Flyers tied the game. His team was getting bounced all over the ice! This is at least the four or fifth time this scenario has occurred this season. At this point even Weight would be an improvement!

fan42long
fan42long

Isles fans want Snow to trade for a goalie. That's understandable. Thing is, for who? They aren't getting Miller or Hiller now or later so just forget it. Maybe they target Halak as a UFA next year. Once again the Vanek trade looms large as spending that #1 pick + Moulson took away flexibility. People mentioned Andersen. For who? A Mac? And consider Andersen has a tiny sample size and plays for the best team in hockey right now. I don't see it.


realhlywd
realhlywd

You gotta love how Cappy continues to throw the players under the bus in every post game interview. One thing he does better than any other coach in the league it play the blame game with his players. Take some ownership and responsibility of some of the bonehead decisions you make every game moron!

Jersey Steve
Jersey Steve

Our 2nd line should be Wang - Weight - Capuano.

mrcisback
mrcisback

  I wonder if the Islanders could ask the NHL for special permission to use a mannequin in goal instead of our present goaltenders. He might stop more goals and we might have a better chance to get back in this thing.

Sportsfan1970
Sportsfan1970

I think the Isles only had 5 shots on net from the time the Flyers switched goalies with about 5 minutes to play in the second.  That means 5 shots over the final 25 minutes of the game.  When you don't have a stand on your head goalie and are not a great defensive team, that means you are basically playing on your heels.  The Isles should have gotten a point out of this game at least but they were out manned and out gunned in the 3rd.  Didn't help though that the refs hosed the Isles on a goal.

gleichzahl
gleichzahl

i love the people who always want to sell nielsen.  now it's because his value is so high.  how about a simpler idea:  keep him, because his value is so high.

njersey
njersey

Can an NBA owner own an NHL Team at the same time ??? Just thinking about the Nets Russian Owner..... Am I just dreaming ???

njersey
njersey

from the Newsday Business Section - Uniondale Marriott foreclosure sought by lender - Lenders are seeking to foreclose on the Long Island Marriott Hotel and Conference Center in Uniondale, owned by New York Islanders owner Charles Wang....

I'm thinking this might effect our chances of keeping Vanek !!!

We are a SORRY ORGANIZATION !!!

dzruggie
dzruggie

This one hurts.  You get on a roll and build up confidence with some really fine road play.  But all of that build up has to be validated by winning against your division.  This game was of the blown save - defeat snatched from victory.  Sloppy play and bad goaltending and for me Monday is a MUST win - not just for the points, but for the psyche and the message that has to be sent to the teams in this division.

ohiofan
ohiofan

First half of game could of easily put in 8, Grabs could of had 3 alone if he had any finishing skill at all. After the goalie change everyone basically quit. Worse half of a game i think a Tavares line has ever played. Defensively they were horrible. Bailey maybe needs some Bridge time to realize how good he has it here. Seems to just be going through the motions knowing there's no repercussions whether he plays well or not.

camb33
camb33

@rmreturns ....And whose fault is it for our make shift, inexperienced defense. Couldn't be The GM could it?

bubbamac19
bubbamac19

@rmreturns 5 years into a rebuild and that's our defense. Anyone who wants to has every right to complain.

Richard Gauthier
Richard Gauthier

@fan42long I would rather see an offer tendered to Halak with the 5+Million that comes off the books from Nabby and Bouchard than trade more assets away for Anderson. He's a little older and will be 35+ by the time we start making any serious runs at the cup.

Vicp73
Vicp73

@njersey Maple Leaf sports own the Leafs, Raptors and TFC

dzruggie
dzruggie

@njersey Well I believe Roy Boe owned both the Islanders and the Nets but that was then

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@njersey  

I am going to repeat what I posted below...

The bill is $125 million on a property that Forbes now values at less than $65 million.  The owner of that hotel, and the bill as well, is none other than the owner of the hockey team that still plays next door.  

My wife has this theory about Karma.  Not that she's an overly spiritual person, she just believes that what goes around eventually come back.  Having escaped the fallout from the insider trading scandal at CA and avoiding the consequences of those directly beneath him on the organizational chart, perhaps Karma has bitten the owner of that hotel.  His fortune has fallen precipitously on Forbes annual list of the richest, plunging from the billions into the millions, and apparently it hasn't bottomed out yet.  

dzruggie
dzruggie

@ohiofan I try stand back from the Bailey bashing but he lacks the next gear that good NHL players have.  He has the skill but no heart.   If there was a way to put in the AHL I would - but obviously that is not possible.  Unfortunately there are not many options unless you consider Regin on the second line  - which I do not.

dkdk
dkdk

Carkner was also our crown jewel free agent signing 2 summers ago and it wasn't to be a #7 guy. And just like PMB and Regin last summer whenwe could have grabbed guys like Brunner and Mason Raymond.

fan42long
fan42long

@Richard Gauthier@fan42long 

Agree and it might be one of the few starting gigs available to Halak next year. Yeah, my point was I don't see giving up assets for Andersen as (A) we don't have many assets and (B) we don't know what Andersen is yet. Take Halak out of St.Louis and I'm not even sure he's the answer. The Isles are so chock full of holes. How long have we been in rebuild mode?

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Yeah, and it was the reason he eventually was forced to sell - he was commingling funds from the islanders to the nets.

One writer called it robbing potvin to pay paultz.

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@dzruggie @ohiofan 

When this coaching staff puts together a second line, would it not be prudent to put the second best offensive players on that line???  Using that kind of logic tells me the second line should be Nielsen with Grabner and Nelson on the wings.

Richard Gauthier
Richard Gauthier

@fan42long @Richard Gauthier Ohhhhh! My bad Frederick not Craig. Yeah either him or Fasth would be a great pickup if we did have to move someone like A-Mac. But the downside is, that gives us another Kevin Poulin type that has lots of potential but isn't a sure thing (I know they both have ridiculous numbers, but hey, it's the Ducks). I think we need a steady hand in goal to help the young D out and keep their confidence up. 

fan42long
fan42long

@Richard Gauthier@fan42long

BTW - 1 goalie to keep an eye on (if he can prove his health)is Viktor Fasth. He comes back soon and plays well, I think the Ducks would move him on the cheap.

fan42long
fan42long

@Richard Gauthier@fan42long 

I think we are confusing Andersens. I'm talking about the Ducks goalie. I've read a couple posts of people wanting to deal with Anaheim to get him. 

Richard Gauthier
Richard Gauthier

@fan42long @Richard Gauthier Since June 20th 2008. We have young defensive assets that could be moved but that's just way too big a risk at this point. And you are 100% correct. Anderson seems to have a fantastic year and then follows it up with a mediocre year. We need someone like Halak that flourishes with a young D and has a consistent 2.1 - 2.5 GAA and .910 save %.

dzruggie
dzruggie

That was a disaster for sure but is it still allowed is the question.

dkdk
dkdk

And dz that is why I respect your opinions because you are optimistic without being polyannic like 2 or 3 here so sometimes you build hope in me. As long as JT is here and HAPPY there is at least a glimmer of hope which is more than could have been said 4 or 5 years ago.

dzruggie
dzruggie

@mitchfritz @dzruggie @dkdk Well such is life of a fan - especially my teams lol I'll be there, watching every game even with no hope, and debating the off season and everything else.

dzruggie
dzruggie

@dkdk Well - fair enough - I was waiting for the  bashing - guilty - fine.  Weird comments?  Yeah that is like a majority here,  My point is if we harp on the season and look at the entire results to date - then why bother watching a single game - because looking at the YTD results I get, that is what it is.  For me this is the exact reason why Monday has to be "the game".  I do fear a loss then - I am faced with now what.  But there is still time and perhaps I am guilty of being over-zealously optimistic.

dkdk
dkdk

Who is bashing you dz? You and I actually had a nice exchange the other day about the shark tank and I like and respect you. Which may your comments about the other day a little weird, but whatever.

You are right a win Monday helps, but only because the conference is F'd. We are 12 games under 500 and lead the league in blowing 3 period leads. Big picture is we have taken a huge stride backwards.

dzruggie
dzruggie

@mitchfritz @dkdk Uh it is not about them being "scared" it is about this team at the breaking point.  DK it is 8 point and yes all of the teams you mention but it starts with Monday.  They rebound and come away with 2 in regulation, it is a message.  You 2 guys can go on and on all day - whine and cry about Snow and all of your other BS let's bash everything comment but the fact is,  Monday is a message game.  So go ahead and bash me but fact is - I am right here and you are not.  (Both of you)

dkdk
dkdk

Chasing 7 teams while being 12 games under true 500

dkdk
dkdk

EJ ... His only accomplishment in life is avoiding prosecution for something everyone knows he is guilty of and pocketing hundreds or millions. But he is a knight on a white horse ... Lol

ejej
ejej

@dkdk No Dk, we are run by a PROFESSIONAL crook! Wanger has more lives then Morris the cat and slithers like the greatest of Anacondas. 

ejej
ejej

@dkdk- Oh no Dk, we are run by a PROFESSIONAL crook! Wang has more lives than Morris the ,kitty and slithers like the greatest of Anacondas.. 

dkdk
dkdk

I meant all for .... Auto correct strikes again

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@mitchfritz @REDSpointofview @dkdk 

Whatever they choose to do, the one thing they should do is get Bailey into a role more suited for the season he is having.  And that would seem to me to be a checking role, a third line role where he is not being asked to produce points, rather he is being asked to prevent the opposition from scoring points...

dkdk
dkdk

Nelson has been great I small for anything hat gets him extra ice

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@mitchfritz @REDSpointofview @dkdk 

I suggested that at one point about two weeks ago and was immediately shot down.  Vanek with Nielsen and Grabner might be OK, and that opens a spot with Tavares and Okposo for Nelson.  It wouldn't hurt to give that a try for a spell, say a game or two just to see if they gel...

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@mitchfritz @dkdk 

It doesn't matter what we think, and we can think that Grabner and Nielsen are better suited to a third line role but, not on this team as it is comprised right now.  And to get the most out of a second line, one that can take some of the pressure off the top line, shouldn't the second best offensive players be on that line???  We can see that,,, apparently Capuano cannot...

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@dkdk 

I am flabbergasted that Bailey continues to get that spot while Nelson goes to the net and scores. What am I missing here???

dkdk
dkdk

Hey red ... No issue with being on the team especially over guys like Regin. But exactly what I posted 4 days ago ... Why, why, why, why does he have guaranteed spot on the 2nd line? Play him as a 3rd-4th line defensive forward and all is good.

dzruggie
dzruggie

@REDSpointofview @dzruggie @ohiofan I subscribe to the logic that your first 2 lines need to be scoring lines (best talent) and your third line a shut down defensive line.  Our 4th line is fine for it's role all things considered.  Nelson is looking really and with his size he is that # 3 center.  So for me:

Frans - Grabs - Who???

Nelson - Bailey - Cal

Point based on your comment is I am not replacing Nelson at Center with Regin

dkdk
dkdk

We are the one run by non professionals