Islanders 4, Stars 2: Isles win Fourth Straight in (Another) Come from Behind Victory

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Christian Arnold, Islanders Point Blank:

The Islanders really seem to have a flair for the dramatic lately.

After coming from behind on Friday night to defeat the Colorado Avalanche 2-1, the Islanders did it once again on Sunday to beat the Dallas Stars 4-2. It was the Isles fourth straight win, their longest winning streak this season, and the team’s seventh consecutive win on the road.

After giving up two goals in the first, Kyle Okposo scored in the second period and again in the third to tie the game. Then with 1:24 left in the contest John Tavares gave the Islanders their first lead of the night. Calvin de Haan was up in the play and sent a no look pass in front of the net to Tavares, who buried the puck past Dan Ellis.

“I wanted to shoot the puck, but I kind of mishandled it a little bit, ” de Haan said while describing the play. “I knew we had support back door, it just happened to be Johnny. It got through and it went in, so it was a big goal.”

The second and third periods were a stark difference from the first for the Isles. The Stars were the stronger team in the first, outshooting the visitors 16-9 and scoring their only two goals of the game in that period. Ray Whitney scored 11:45 into the first and Sergei Gonchar scored off a defensive zone turnover by Brock Nelson.

The Islanders pushed back in the second period, generating more scoring chances and eventually finding the back of the net. Okposo scored his first goal of the game at 10:47 on an odd-man rush for New York.

The momentum continued into the third where Okposo tied the game late in the period, going top shelf on his shot from the top of the face-off circle. Nearly three minutes later Tavares scored the game winner and Brock Nelson sealed the win with an empty net goal with 52 seconds left in the game.

“They’re a resilient bunch of guys right now and they’re working hard playing with some confidence,” Islander coach Jack Capuano said after the win.

Since the calendar turned to 2014 the Islanders have looked like the team everyone saw during last season. Despite falling behind time after time, the Islanders have battled back and have found ways to win. Tavares has continued to do what he is expected to do and Thomas Vanek has really seemed to compliment Tavares and Okposo on the top line.

And Calvin de Haan had one of his best games as  an Islander Sunday in Dallas. The rookie defenseman saw 22:52 of playing time, was a plus-2 and finished the game with two points. de Haan had a hand in both the game-tying and winning goal. Not to mention several smart defensive plays during the course of the game.

The only negative to come from Sunday was the absence of Travis Hamonic, who missed the third period. Hamonic was ill and got too dehydrated to complete the rest of the game, according to Newsday’s Arthur Staple. 

The Islanders will look to make it five wins in a row on Tuesday when they take on the Florida Panthers.

261 comments
truth77
truth77

What is the islanders record with De hann in the lineup? The key here is mobility .J T. in a late interview after the game  said Quote "there are only three or four guys in the league that can move the puck up ice like De hann without being hit"  Size will mean squat when we play Philly if we work hard we have a chance to win They do not have a Calvin De hann on De and they do not have a john Taveras on offense.Play hard and leave A mac off the ice for the last 2 minutes and with the talent the islander have they will compete every night.The islanders have a very talented and mobile defense not too many teams have that many skilled De men that can move the puck up the ice like them.

bubbamac19
bubbamac19

We have to do something about this posting system. We have a great discussion going and it's nearly impossible to follow the string!

isles23
isles23

IMO anyone that can't see the positive direction this team is going is blinded by hate. I'm not saying we are now world beaters and all is forgiven for the bad years but to not LOVE how this team is developing is just foolish. The farm system is stacked w/ young defenseman which is exactly what this team needs to take the next step. And to say things like "I've been told about prospects before" is just flat out misinformed. We have not had this highly of a rated farm system at any point in the past 20, not even close actually. Guys like Bruno and Campoli were never highly rated players or dominant and the world junors like say Polka was last week, and he's not even our top rated D prospect! Just look at the perception of us around the league, its pretty much the same everywhere, young, up and coming team. Nobody is saying they suck and are going backwards. Not writers, not bloggers, just doom and gloom isles fans.

gleichzahl
gleichzahl

on the vanek trade...

we could debate that they overpaid, at least somewhat.  if vanek walks, that becomes obvious.  but another thing about the trade was the timing.  it would have worked better as an off-season trade.  as it was, they got off kinda slow, then they needed more time to reset after the trade, then they hit their seasonal trademark slump...  add all that together, and you're looking at a season pbl slipped away.

phishstyx1
phishstyx1

Lot's or Okie's from Muskogee in the house supporting Matt Donovan. Plus many other Islanders fans supporting the boys. I guess I'm not the only LIer exiled to the Lonestar State that's not in the witness protection program

gleichzahl
gleichzahl

this team is streaky because they play a high-octane style you can't keep up for 82games.  opposite of nj.  if you watch a nj game after an islander game, it's like they're moving in quicksand.  boring.  but it's a system you can use every single night.

truth is islanders very very pbl have blown this season by getting into too deep a hole.  let's hope it's a lesson, because this team is good enough that they should be in the playoffs.

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Not to throw too much cold water on everything, but after reading so e of these comments, this has to be said:

This team is still 26th overall. Just want to point that out. They've got a LONG way to go.

dzruggie
dzruggie

@bubbamac19 It is very difficult to follow.  Also I liked the notice when there was a reply....

tag1
tag1

@isles23 Matt I think when people say "I've been told about prospects before" they are referring to the late 90's with Chara and McCabe and Berard and Brewer and LaChance to name a few that were all supposed to be the "future" and it never came to be, I don't think they had Campoli or Bruno in mind.

Don22
Don22

@gleichzahlI see what you are saying but I'm betting that Buffalo wasn't keen on trading Vanek in the off season.  This trade happened because Buffalo started off terrible and realized nothing good was happening.  If they truly planned to blow it up, then they would have fired the GM and coaches in the off season instead of starting 2013/2014 with them.

With that said, the assets were valuable - but more so to Buffalo than the Isles.  We don't need anymore draft picks/prospects.  We need established NHL talent.  If you can say that the assets traded could have gotten a D or G, then that's fine - I would agree.  But I'm not so sure that was available and if so, chances are it would be a UFA too.  This trade was made with thoughts on next year and beyond.  We all know how hard it is to get UFAs to even consider Long Island.  It's always been that way.  This was a way for the team to have exclusive access to Vanek for close to a year.  Get him to like playing with JT and this team.  Get him to like Long Island.  It gives them a leg up on most of the other teams when FA signing opens.  It's not conventional, but something that needed to be done.  Is it a big gamble?  Sure.  But I don't think this team will be any worse off without the 2 picks. 

bubbamac19
bubbamac19

@phishstyx1 You best get back into the WPP. Don't want you know who knowing that you're an Islander fan.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@gleichzahl

Yeah, and fervently pray that next season they don't go into their annual swoon, and kill another season, it is a recurring theme with them and I pray they are over it but time will tell I guess.

Starz31
Starz31

@gleichzahl You would have a point but the reality is this system has actually worked well all season. During the losing streak the offense was still scoring goals but they had major injuries and were weak on defense and even weaker in goal. Those two factors contributed mightly to their numerous 3rd period collapses. This syetm can work when you have the talent and speed the islanders have and when the offense is struggling you can get by with it when you have a solid defense and goalie. They just need to figure out the goalie situation and this team is going to be a force for years to come. (The defense already has a lot of potential with the top young guys they have in the pipeline and the hopeful return of Vis or equal replacement of him next year). 

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

@gleichzahl I don't agree with that, at all. Teams that don't utilize their speed end up losing more than they win. 


I think you're analyzing the streaks a bit too closely - searching for reasons that aren't there. Earlier in the season, because this roster is so poorly constructed, the horrendous "plan" they had for the season fell apart upon the first rash of injuries, as their backline looked as if it would have a difficult time playing in the ECHL and they did not have enough ready for prime-time goaltending, as Garf neglected to fortify the team with one. 


Poulin is starting to play well and the defence have had some additions and guys back, thus are able to stabilize somewhat; therefore, they're able to put together a streak of well-played games. 

dzruggie
dzruggie

@Zee Executioner Well first 26th is irrelevant since they only need to be the 3rd best in the Metro division.  It is possible that entire division sans the Pens could finish lower than most of the West.  So your cold water is a bit off.  I do not think anyone here is thinking they have gone from last place to 3rd in the division.  It is a steep road and a lot of teams to pass.  If they play like this the remainder, they will be in the mix in the end.  

bubbamac19
bubbamac19

@Zee Executioner Very true, but in terms of big picture (beyond the playoffs and this season) it's nice to see the improvement and inclusion of the young players, deHaan, Strome, etc.

isles23
isles23

@tag1. And how did most of those players careers turn out? Just the guys you listed there is a future HOF'r, a multiple time all-star, and a Calder trophy winner that had his career cut short because of a serious eye injury. If we showed the patience back then that we are showing now who knows what could've been.

since72
since72

@Starz31 During the 17 games from Nov 5 thru Dec 9, they scored a total of 31 goals.  Their record was 2-13-2 during that stretch which saw quite a few 1 goal losses.  The offense was not producing goals during that stretch.  But there is a lot of blame to go around as several points were left on the table because, as you correctly point out, of numerous 3rd period collapses. 

gleichzahl
gleichzahl

@Starz31 well, it's like cappy says.  for them to win, every single guy has to play hard.  i don't take that so much as a comment on the level of talent.  imo it says more about the style.  to play up-and-down hockey everybody has to hustle.

Keane
Keane

@dzruggie They're still in last place. Even after going 8-2. If they keeping winning 8 out of every 10 games, sure. They'll be in the mix. If you think that will actually happen, seek professional help.

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

@dzruggie  I agree with that. They'll be in the mix to squeak in, if. 

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

@bubbamac19 @Zee Executioner I dunno. Maybe it's just me, but I have a hard time wishing to look beyond any longer. I'm not saying I don't care once they move to Brooklyn, but it won't be Long Island's team in my mind, any longer.


I am also sick of hearing about looking ahead to a future that never comes. 

dzruggie
dzruggie

@tag1 @isles23 Isn't that part of the deal when you are a fan?  I mean unless you root for the several high end spenders you are faced with budgets and rebuilds.  I know we live in NY (well I used to) and it is big market so I get the frustration since this is not KC or something.  Whatever - I guess you have earned the right to feel however.  I feel pumped 

dzruggie
dzruggie

@tag1 @isles23 With all due respect Tag Wang has spent money when it seemed right.  He gave Yashin $90M, signed Osborn and Peca at $5M per.  He signed DP long term when goalies salaries were climbing through the roof.  The players moved was more of the GM trying to build through trades.  Snow is building through picks and they are paying them.  Now the proof will be Vanek.....I believe he will be signed.

tag1
tag1

@isles23 No I think they had some off ice problems with those guys IIRC.


milbury also made trades when wang bought the team because he finally had some money to spend and they wanted to get back into the playoffs which they did in the 2001-2002 season.

isles23
isles23

@tag1, you think wrong my friend. They were all traded because Milbury had zero patience. His thinking was you are who you are by the time your 22. If he was still our GM we wouldn't be watching Okposo blossom into a star player. I do get and agree with were you are coming from as far as spending the money and IMO offering Vanek a big time deal would be a major step in the right direction but I LOVE the patience Snow has shown. He has giving up on one player in 7 years. As you've said we've seen what happens when you give up on kids too early. I guess what I'm trying to say is I'd rather go down giving the kids too much time rather than too little. We've seen how the former goes and god does it suck watching our draft picks turn into stars on other teams.

tag1
tag1

@isles23 I thought milbury traded them because he thought there was too much of a party atmosphere with the team and wanted to break them up. 


My point is when players develop into real good players they look to be paid more, you can either pay them or trade them, let's see what happens.


All those players got to the NHL with the Isles then were gone, weren't we promised that they were the future we just have to be patient? We've been down this road before Matt that's why some folks on here are skeptical.

isles23
isles23

@tag1. Which of those players were dumped because they were too expensive? None! They were traded away by mad mike. Example A, Chara was traded for some Russian guy we gave 80 mil too.

tag1
tag1

@isles23They turned out great FOR OTHER TEAMS Matt, didn't help us out one bit. Part of building a great team is having to spend, let's see if that happens or if we dump players when they become too expensive.

isles23
isles23

Sorry brewer only made one all-star team. I would still say he's had a very solid career though.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@gleichzahl@Starz31

You mean like Bailey? His name should be changed to Barely, as he barely gets involved with what is happening on the ice, and also he hasn't scored a goal now in 32 games, and a big contract extension for those numbers and performances which was totally unwarranted imo. 

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

I'm inclined to agree Keane, but weirder things have certainly happened.

Starz31
Starz31

@Zee Executioner That's all we can hope for though...a reason to be excited about watching hockey in April. They'll be contending. 

isles23
isles23

@zee. At least I don't act like an immature know it all. Just keep calling others names and mocking people, makes you the bigger person right? Oh wait...

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Bubba, the jury is out on what? This team hasn't won a playoff round since 1993, hasn't won a division since 1988, hasn't made a final since 1984, and hasn't finished 1st overall since 1982. They have supposedly been rebuilding for 7 going on 8 seasons. That's a joke. And they're no where near the top of the standings.

Wingwang is a fraud. Snowjob is his yesman.

The case has gone the way of the Scopes trial.

Case closed.

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Well Matt, at least when i write, it's not always in conjunction with 7 other handles.

Keep on surfin' and astroturfin!!!

isles23
isles23

@zee. Yea for some reason I don't "trust you" zee. Idk why? Maybe something to do with your extreme immaturity and how you always have to reduce to name calling...

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Okay Palffy. Trying to put down Burke by mentioning a transaction he had nothing to do with. Phil Kessel is pretty good, btw.

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Mr. C. How's lester patrick skating in your deranged mind, toolbag?

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

There is so much BS in your post, Neeza, or should I say Sockpuppet, that it is hard for me to know where to start. I posted such before but the morons deleted it. So now, i'll just cut to the chase and tell you to give Chuckie the high, hard one the way you always do.

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

On the other hand, there are MANY scholarly articles and case studies that have shown over and over again how those arrangements in different municipalities, both in the US and abroad, bleed them dry and make their citizens suffer. What Tag wrote about Glendale is right on the money and very unexceptional.

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

That's right. Botta is as much of a pom-pom waver and part of the problem, as anyone. He reported the official Wang line, something he ALWAYS did, whether allowed into the press area or not. Don't be so naive, this guy worked as head of PR for The Isles.

We had email exchanges. Trust me, Botta concealed the truth as much as anyone.

Even more, the fact is those estimates were rosy, at best, and NIFA would NEVER have gone for it.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@bubbamac19@Zee Executioner

Correct, The move to Bklyn means squat if their supposed talent doesn't come to fruition, and if Wang and Snow make decisions to keep these players together, instead of dumping them like Milbury did for whatever reasons, financial, or deal making, and it always takes time to reestablish chemistry regardless of who they should acquire, it now seems that the team IS heading in the right direction, and should be maintained as long as possible, so what I have posted here is contingent upon those points.

bubbamac19
bubbamac19

@Zee Executioner Fair enough; and I certainly know that you've stuck to your guns and views the way that they have stuck to yours. Lots of good points on both sides. And certainly, viewed through the prism of the better recent play, it's easy to advocate the opposing view. During the season, the narrative can change weekly depending on the results. Really, the jury is out and until the season ends and we can measure the results.

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

@tag1 @Zee Executioner @weeza Yeah, never mind that GO bonds for sports buildings, especially in a suburban community, is a recipe for fiscal ruin. 


I am not overstating that, by the way - fiscal ruin. 


People would be forced to sell their homes over Chucky Cheese's new arena on which he alone would profit.


People in Nassau ain't as stupid as they seem. I am still wretchedly disappointed in the electoral system, the ridiculous system of patronage, and populace that doesn't turn out to vote, at large, but, in this case, they actually did the right thing. 


Let's see how the Red Wings'/Ilitch's new digs pan out for Detroit. That ought to be sickening.   

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

@isles23 dude. You really need to educate yourself on what is really going on. Learn what a GO bond is. Learn how they get the money to pay it off, when there are either shortages or miscalculations in budgets. You have ZERO idea of what the hell you're talking about. 

tag1
tag1

@Zee Executioner@weeza Zee I posted last week what a mess they have in Glendale right now with the Yotes where they got involved in arena building, so people on here who continually bash the TOH politicians and the people of Nassau either are ignorant and need to educate themselves a little more or have a blinding hatred of LI and think bklyn is paradise.


BTW did you see the news last night and the lefty hipsters riding the subway's with no pants, what a bunch of disgusting humans and 99% of them shouldn't have been seen without pants if you know what I mean.

bubbamac19
bubbamac19

@weeza That's inaccurate. Kate Murray is involved with the Town of Hempstead, not Nassau County; she believed that her constituents - those that live near the Coliseum in Garden City, etc. would suffer from "overbuild"; truth be told, though I live farther north, I didn't want 20 story hotels in suburbia that I can see from Connecticut either.

The referendum you refer to was a tax referendum to build/refurbish the coliseum (which I supported with my view being that a new Coliseum was an investment in the future of the county); it was not a referendum on the Islanders, their popularity or Nassau County's willingness to house the Islanders. It was a money grab years AFTER we were told by Wang that he could provide the financing for the project himself. It also occurred after one of the great financial collapses in generations; so I am sure you can understand the timing was a huge issue. And the Islanders did themselves no favors by fielding lousy teams year after year.

Anyway, there is plenty of blame to go around but Wang refused to even negotiate the TOH counter proposal of a smaller scale Lighthouse project; he pulled the plug entirely. That's not how real estate deals get done.

I give Wang full marks for not moving the team to Quebec and recouping all his losses and then some in one fell swoop.

isles23
isles23

@zee. The referendum would've cost the taxpayers of Nassau 52$ a year and wait for the best part, that number was based off the worst case scenario that the isles generated zero dollars in revenue, which of course wouldn't have happened. Ignorance indeed.

isles23
isles23

@zee. I'm still waiting on you to answer neeza's question of what you would do, oh wait that's right bring in Burke as a consultant. BRILLIANT!! And for the last time stop with the name calling of Wang, snow, and others it serves no purpose other than showing your immaturity.

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

@weeza @Zee Executioner Argh. 


You have no clue. 


First of all, Wang pulled the plug on the Lighthouse, as he was unwilling to negotiate the scope and size. FACT!


Secondly, do you even know what the voters of Nassau turned down? Do you know how the County was preparing to pay for it? 


Do you know what a Municipal General Obligation Bond is? 


Do you have any idea what that would have done to the residents of the County. 


Do you know NIFA would never have let it pass, anyway?! 


Do you know what NIFA is?


Do you know the County's bankrupt?


IGNORANCE! 

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

@mrcisback @neeza06 @Zee Executioner 


An idiot based no what? He has one more Stanley Cup than Snowjob and a lot more success. And of course, that's not true. I didn't actually say that they should hire him to become GM. Try reading my posts, there, tough guy. 

weeza
weeza

@Zee Executioner Well your suburban population is no longer supporting the Islanders. They had two chances once with Kate Murray who didn't approve of the lighthouse project and later on with the voting to rebuild a new arean. What more would you like the Isles to do. If you want to blame someone blame yourselves. If It wasn't for wang Isles might be long gone by now if not def would not have relocated to Brooklyn.

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

@Don22 @Zee Executioner @bubbamac19 Oh really?! 


Do you not think I want the Islanders to be a winning and respected franchise again? I would love for nothing more than not to have to worry about what the schmuck/shyster that owns this thing will do next, or not to have to think that I care about the team much more than he does. 


That is why I am not buying what you're selling. First of all, you seem intelligent. Secondly, you know certain things about this franchise are going to be a certain way before they come down the pike. You seem very dishonest to me. You said yourself that you worked under Wang at some point, no? Thirdly, you care very much about what I have to say, don't you?


When, btw, have I ever "preached" anything. I suggest strongly that people stop giving Chuckles the clown their hard-earned money, but I am well within my rights to do that. 


"I have come after you a lot". How self-important are you? Give me a break. 


BTW, you apparently haven't read my posts on Capuano. 


Whatever. Let's agree to disagree. You obviously think it's okay to have a totally unqualified GM who was pulled out of the showers, without enough integrity to say "no" to giving a relatively unproven player a 15 year deal (as was the condition to take his job to begin with), you obviously think it's okay to stay at the salary cellar in perpetuity, you obviously think it's okay to suck annually, and you obviously think it's okay to have a megalomaniac sociopath for an owner, who uses this franchise, for all intents and purposes, as a tax dodge. 


PEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU


Here, "I'll stop going after you". 


Have a nice life.   


Don22
Don22

@neeza06@Zee ExecutionerLOL.  I agree.  Except maybe that Torrey may have had less to work with.  But he had a plan too.  He knew the team wouldn't be good the first few years. He wasn't going to try and bring in expensive band aids that would be gone before the team got good.  He decided that he was going to endure the growing pains and build his team through the draft. And then once they started to get better, he would add the complimentary pieces.  Right now Garth is in the draft phase and starting to see the draft picks produce.  It may be taking longer than some had hoped - even I had hoped the team would be further ahead.  But you can see more than just glimpses of what this team can become.


It's not right or wrong.  It's just different views of the reality. 

Don22
Don22

@Zee ExecutionerI don't agree with most of what you say, but I do agree with why the team is special to you (us).  Although Brooklyn is a lot better than say, Quebec - it isn't ideal either.  My feeling is that after a year or 2 there, the team is going to really chance.  I feel they will change the colors, logo and maybe even the name.  It will be like the Dallas Stars or even the Devils.  Do you think there are Minnesota and Colorado fans that still feel like the Stars and Devils are "their teams"?  I hope I'm wrong, but when the move to Brooklyn, if they start changing things it will be tough to view them as "my team".

palffy
palffy

@mrcisback @neeza06 @Zee Executioner Can you imagine where Toronto would be if that moron was never there.  They'd have Seguin and Dougie Hamilton (no Kessel), and although this wasn't Burke, Tukka Rask for Andrew Raycroft?  Unreal.  

mrcisback
mrcisback

@neeza06 @Zee Executioner  This is the same guy who said he would have hired Brian Burke as GM of the NY Islanders. Brian Burke is a complete idiot.

neeza06
neeza06

@Zee Executioner in your opinion then what should the isles have done over past 5 years and what would have made this team better? Who are all the draft picks that you would have nailed if you were running things? How would you have rebuilt this team?


Of course in your fantasy land you would have had the lockdown number 1 defenseman of your choosing at your fingertips any time  you wanted him plus whatever number 1 goalie you felt you wanted. Im sure you also would have had free agents banging down the door to join your team. Also prob would have had full cooperation from TOH politicians and would have had a state of the art 20,000 seat venue built 5 years ago that you would have sold out every night and your god awful lease wit the county would have magically disappeared.


NO GM / OWNER combo in the world would have been able to wipe off the stink that was the mid to late 90's, mike milbury and the coliseum off this team.  The only option to get back to respectability was to leave Nassau and build through the draft like the dynasty years.  When you take over a team with 0 established players and 1 legit prospect (okposo) and every other team/player has looked at you as the place hockey players go to die for the last 15 + years it just MAY take a little time and patience to make things work. No GM in islanders history, not even Bill Torrey, had less to work with when snow took over and he took 8 years to win a cup using the same exact formula. He may not be doing as good a job (circumstances around the league are also a lot different) but that sure is a smart person to model you philosophy around.


This isnt an endorsment for snow or wang you just need to wake up and smell reality. 

Don22
Don22

@Zee Executioner@bubbamac19I have so to say Zee, you preach an awful lot.  I originally thought you were just a troll, but after reading a lot of your posts lately it is obvious you do know a lot about hockey and the team and you truly are a fan.  But I also think it is very short sighted to label anyone who doesn't say Garth/Wang/Cappy sucks as - well, I can't remember all of the creative names you come up with.  You have come after me a lot, saying that I am related to Charles or whatever.  Fact is, I'm a fan just like you.  I concede that there will always be fans like you that won't be happy until Garth/Charles/Cappy are gone and new ownership takes place.  But your rants against anyone who doesn't hold your stance against is what is ridiculous, if not just plain short sighted.  You're the one that is trying to sell everyone on your ideas, not the other way around.

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

@bubbamac19  don't know how long you've followed this thing or been on this site, but there are dolts and sockpuppets (astroturfing this site continuously) who have been selling the rebuild with an unusual zeal (rainbows & unicorns, rainbows & unicorns!!) for the last, well, since the inception of IPB with Botta! 


In the words of Bill Hicks, "There is no future! There is only now!" 


Taken out of context, but they can't con you, if you remember that. 


This website comment section should be called "Back to the Future" for as many times as it is mentioned. 


Ridiculous. 

bubbamac19
bubbamac19

@Zee Executioner I hear that. Been a (too, too) long road. Two and three years ago I was told THIS would be the year, etc. I have found that I need to remind myself that these draftees are 18 when they are drafted. Unlike some other sports, their development does take time. I can't discuss in public the nonsense I was up to when I was 18... some things I view as absolute bright lights as well: John Tavares (IMO the Derek Jeter of the Isles) stayed. He stayed and long term. Too, the effectiveness and high praise of our youngsters at the WHC this year (Reinhart, Pelech, Pokka). add in deHaan's solid play... things look better - certainly better than they did two or 3 years ago.

Brooklyn is bittersweet for me. I hope they'll play some at the Coli; it's gonna be tough for me to get to Barclays.

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

@Starz31 @Zee Executioner @bubbamac19 Good Lord. How long have you been following this team, 5 minutes?


First of all, if four games under NHL .500 is the reason for the rebuild, well, then there's no point in wasting my type.  


Secondly, the whole reason why the Islanders were special, in my mind, being a Long Islander growing up, is they represented the suburban populace. It isn't that Brooklyn is too far, per se, although I would definitely not choose to go to Barclay's if I could avoid it, OR that it is an arena for basketball, but that it is no longer Long Island's team. Thanks, Chuckles Wang!


Seriously, can they win a playoff round before whipping out the pom-poms? 

Starz31
Starz31

@Zee Executioner @bubbamac19 A future that never comes? The whole point of the rebuild is what's unfolding right now, right in front of our eyes. Last year wasn't the finish line, it was just the beginning.

De Haan was drafted in 2009 and is now finally ready to make an impact at the NHL level. That's not a criticism of him taking too long but it's the reality of how long it takes to develop talent through the draft. Ditto the rest of the youth like  Brock Nelson (2010 draft) and Ryan Strome (2011). And it's still ongoing with one possibly our best future defenseman in Reinhart (2012) getting here next season and the other players beyond that. It most certainly is about looking at the future since we finally, finally, have serious young talent NHL-ready. THAT was the whole point of the rebuild. And if you don't think there's anything to be excited about then you have been rooting for the wrong team because this team has not been in a better situation in over 20 years. 

And boo-hoo Brooklyn is too far for you. What a joke. If a slight geographical move is enough for you to lose interest in a team, in a city of 8 million people, right when the young talent we have been developing for years is hitting their stride, then there's not much in life that must excite you. 

Also, don't worry, Brooklyn is still technically Long Island.