Islanders 5, Hurricanes 4: Martin, McDonald Score Twice in Goal Fest

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The Islanders took it to a sleep-walking Hurricanes team tonight in North Carolina. With four goals in the first period including three in the first six minutes, the Islanders jumped out to a 4-0 lead in the first and (almost) didn’t look back.

Unlikely scorer Colin McDonald scored two of the Isles first three goals, which helped to chase Carolina netminder Cam Ward after only six saves in 6:12 of game time. McDonald jammed at a loose puck in the crease to open the scoring only 3:39 into the game and, after Cal Clutterbuck made it 2-0, McDonald deposited a brilliant feed from Calvin de Haan in the back of the net. The goals were McDonald’s seventh and eighth of the year.

After Anton Khudobin came on in relief of Ward, Matt Martin extended the lead to 4-0 at just past the halfway mark of the first period. Kevin Czuczman came streaking up the ice and put a shot on net. It appeared as though Ryan Strome had a chance at it before Martin picked up the rebound and put it in, behind a confused Khudobin.

Carolina settled down in the second half of the period and got two goals back. The first was a power play marker from Jeff Skinner off of Johan Sundstrom’s first NHL penalty. Andrei Loktionov added one to cut the lead to 4-2.

Towards the start of the second period that sinking feeling wasn’t your dinner, it was the ‘oh no here we go again’ as Carolina closed the lead to 4-3 after Alex Semin’s power play goal three minutes into the second. The Islanders had let a four-goal lead  get cut to one. The teams would trade goals as Martin would get one back for the Islanders and Nathan Gerbe added one to make it 5-4 at the end of the second.

After nine goals in the first two periods, no one managed to find the back of the net in the third and the game ended with the Islanders holding on by one. It was a good road win for the team but, at the same time, gives them that much higher of a draft pick. It’s backwards, but the players on the ice couldn’t care less about the draft position, I’m sure. That’s just the nature of how these things go.

The Islanders are fourth from the bottom of the league and are five points better than the Florida Panthers with ten games to go. It’s not out of the question but it would be surprising to see the Panthers pass the Isles. Calgary is two points better than the Isles and, after that, Carolina and Ottawa are six points better. It looks as though they’ll enter the draft lottery in the fourth or fifth position.

Next up for the Islanders is a trip to Tampa Bay on Thursday before returning home on Saturday.




97 comments
John Richards
John Richards

After this many years all we have as NHL ready goalies in our system are poulin/Nilsson?? That in itself is an indictment on both snow and wang!! Giving red light ricky that stupid contract is wangs fault but not bringing in better goalies is on Garth!!

TonyM
TonyM

                   #1 priority is goaltending, period! We could bring in Crosby and Webber and this team would still be bad with the current goalies we have. Unles this years pick is a top three, I would give the pick to Buffalo to complete the Vanek debacle! Without a major upgrade between the pipes this team could very well be even worse next season given that Capuano and Snow will most likely be back!

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

i'm literally the last person to listen to anything that ever comes from hockeybuzz.com so dont judge me but EK just mentioned a possible huge draft day deal including the isles and jets which would get kane and/or byfuglien in an isles uni...


how much do we give up to get them? i would take both players in a heartbeat, depending on how much it will cost us of course. 

bubbamac19
bubbamac19

If Trotz is out in Nashville, let's get him to Long Island.

bubbamac19
bubbamac19

Such a weird game at a weird time of the year. Nilsson has to be the worst prospect they have. I just cannot fathom how he made it this far. I don't see any particular element of the position that he does well at all. If he'd stay on his feet, he'd have a chance. Yeesh.

Czuczman looks okay; snapped a nice wrister that handcuffed their goalie. Hope to see more from him.

willymayshays
willymayshays

Anyone else liking  Draisaitl with Reinhart and Ekblad off the board?

Don22
Don22

@John Richards With all due respect, the DP contract - in as much as it was too long, was potentially a pretty good contract.  It's easy to say that it's stupid because of the final result.  But had DP gone on to have the career we thought he would have had, the 4.5 per year cap hit would be pretty good for a #1.


I'm not defending anyone - just saying it was deemed a bad contract because he got injured and was never the same after.

Jason Zimmermann
Jason Zimmermann

@TonyM  #1 priority: Throw a dart at a board, whatever it lands on is a top priority for this team that after five years still has nothing but promises after Tavares.

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@slapshot18_rs  

I see that posted, too...  That's $10.5 million a year,,, a lot of Wang bucks...  Four more years for Kane, two more years for Byfuglien.  If Snow can spend that kind of money, I would assume the asking price starts with our #1 and Reinhart.  Perhaps there's something contingent on our #1 being able to land Sam Reinhart.  If that's the case this deal will never happen.  We would have to win the lottery for that to happen, as I do not think this team will drop into the bottom two for the draft.  If Winnipeg really wants to unload Kane and Byfuglien, it's going to take a lot more than just a pick and prospect.  I don't know if we have the assets to make that deal.  I also think that Snow should be focused on a goal tender first...

Don22
Don22

@slapshot18_rs How do they bring up a deal like that and not say what might be going over to the Isles?

jepliberty
jepliberty

@bubbamac19

Along with the other Trots, Bryan Trottier, in a GM role, to make an attempt to rebuild this team, providing the owner allows him free rein and opens his 'tight as a crabs ass' wallet.

tag1
tag1

@bubbamac19 Trotz has been coaching Nashville 15 years and has won 2 playoff series, is he a upgrade from Cappy, I guess so, but his coaching record is not that impressive at first glance. Second I doubt he would come here.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@willymayshays  yeah he looks like a good young player...soft hands and good vision


i dont see any scenario that we give our top pick to BUF this year and really looking at the top 5-6 guys, we can get a solid contributor sooner than later.  It may not be a deep draft, but there is still tremendous talent at the top.  

dagr33k
dagr33k

I think Nielsen would be involved plus 1 of our better defensemen in the minors and this years pick if in top 4

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@REDSpointofview @slapshot18_rs  Totally agree about needing a goaltender first and foremost, however, we have needed a goalie first and foremost for a long time now and always wind up with anything but a goalie, so ive learned to not put anything past Snow.


"Well we need a goalie, so lets get a forward" 

Don22
Don22

@REDSpointofview @slapshot18_rsI think he has the assets to make that deal - but does he have the wherewithal?  That's the problem.

I agree with concentrating on a goaltender first, but who is that goaltender?  I am skeptical that the "big 3" UFAs would consider signing with the Isles.  I think they just try to land Reimer with a draft pick and/or prospect and hope they can build the defense up enough to make him a better goalie. 

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@Don22 @slapshot18_rs  that is what hockeybuzz is all about - throwing out scenario's with no real concrete evidence to support it.


hence, i am the last person to listen to anythong on hockeybuzz haha...just thought its an interesting rumor

bubbamac19
bubbamac19

@tag1 True, his record at first glance might be concerning, but he's a very solid defensive coach that took over and ran a successful expansion franchise (which is pretty much what the isles are) in a tough division(s). Seems to have a steady hand; given some offensive firepower, I think he might be a good fit to coach the young defenders that we hear so much about (and that we'll need to be impactful if 2014-15 is going to be an improvement). But I agree, I doubt he would come here - or that any of the other good  coaching possibilities would. Feels like we are a sad sack franchise. Demoralizing.

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@slapshot18_rs @willymayshays  

By all accounts,,, Reinhart and Ekblad are the consensus #1 and #2.  If we stay in the current spot one of Draisatl, Perlini or Bennett should be there for Snow to grab.  A sleeper and perhaps someone Snow might consider trading down to take would be Ritchie...

Don22
Don22

@willymayshays @Don22@John RichardsI agree.  But you would have expected that if he were able to remain healthy he would have at least played at a starter level until at least 35 years old.  That would be about 10 years of a 4.5 cap hit, which would be very reasonable for a # 1 goalie.


I'm not defending the contract per say.  But it's pretty easy to pan it now after we have seen the end result.  At the time, although the long term risk was evident - it looked like a very team friendly contract.  

Luongo has a similar contract, with a 5.3 cap hit.  The biggest problem with his contract is that for some ungodly reason they decided to give him a 12 year contract at the age of 32.  Compared to Luongo's contract, DP's looks great. 

isles23
isles23

@red. I don't wanna part with Nielson either but I would have to consider it for Kane.

isles23
isles23

@red. I agree but you wouldn't consider Kane an elite talent?

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@dagr33k  

There is no way I would let Nielsen go in any deal that doesn't bring back an elite talent.  He is the best bargain in the league, and as a #3 center he is probably the best at his position in the entire NHL.  He can play the point, he kills penalties, and he produces while still playing that checking role and putting up points.  If Snow trades Franz, he better get top talent in return...  

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@slapshot18_rs @REDSpointofview  

I do like the rumor, though.  That means Snow IS trying to make this team better...  I also heard that Nabokov was dining with Khudobin before last night's game.  Now that scenario would require a trade with Carolina.  I did speculate that because Khudobin's contract escalates next year to $2.25 million from it's current $800K and Cam Ward is signed for $6.3 million, Carolina might be willing to deal and perhaps Nabokov was trying to convince him that this would be a nice place to play...

Don22
Don22

@REDSpointofview @Vicp73@Don22@slapshot18_rs Gustavsson from Detroit?  Wasn't he the guy that Reimer replaced?  I don't know much about him but his numbers aren't very impressive.  I always get worried with guys that have pretty good stats - but on a much better team.  

Don22
Don22

@isles23 That would be nice.  And heck, if they can get those guys here, I would be fine with Reimer.  I think he can be good if he has a sound D in front of him.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@REDSpointofview @Don22@slapshot18_rs

Seems you, and most of us believe that Snow should concentrate on getting a viable, capable goalie,  but it doesn't seem so to Garth, according to what I have read in here all season, and that is what he should have done in last years off season, so we should all proceed with caution when it comes to what Snow feels he needs to improve this team, it may be another year with our fossil goalie, and a pick em of Poulin, or Nilsson. And I don't like it one frigging bit.

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@Vicp73 @REDSpointofview @Don22 @slapshot18_rs  

So it's another conundrum and we have to trust Snow to negotiate his way around it.  He needs a goalie,,, and he needs to do it within budget,,, and he needs to get something better than what he already has.  Does being an Islander fan ever get any better???

Don22
Don22

@REDSpointofview @Don22@slapshot18_rsThat's really my point.  We can only hope that after the season is over he is relieved of his GM duties.  But then - who comes in?  I threw that question out there a few days ago and didn't get much response.  Maybe I reached to high by asking "who is our Phil Jackson".  Maybe he's not out there, but who comes in to bring the team to the next level? 

Vicp73
Vicp73

@REDSpointofview @Don22 @slapshot18_rs  Leaf's are up against the Cap ceiling,  And they need to resign Bolland and Franzin, Taking Baileys contract wouldn't make any sense. At this point a draft pick and middle prospect might get it done. Calgary and Winnipeg are also going to be in the reimer sweepstakes 

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@Don22 @REDSpointofview @slapshot18_rs  

I think Reimer comes cheaper than a pick or a prospect.  Toronto wants to move him in the worst way and maybe would be willing to take Bailey straight up???  That opens up room for that deal with Winnipeg, too.  But,,, I still think Snow should concentrate on Elliott or Gustavsson first...

As to your first point,,, does Snow have the wherewithal to make any deal???  After the Vanek trade can we really trust him to be capable of making any kind of a deal, or be honest about what's happening???

isles23
isles23

@don. I agree but I can't help but think if we did pull off a trade for Kane and 'buff' than maybe just maybe that would help sway one of those goalies here.

tag1
tag1

@Vicp73  I would have to check out some Rodney Dangerfield jokes for you Vic to answer that one, but it ain't going to be pretty.

Vicp73
Vicp73

@tag1 @Vicp73  So Tag, how ugly is it going to get next season with Nabby your number 1 and Cappy behind the bench??

Vicp73
Vicp73

@tag1 @Vicp73  It also helps when Weber and Suter were paired up all those years playing 20-30 minutes a night.. But cause he was in a tough Western Conference all those seasons didn't do him any favors. IMO a great coach.

tag1
tag1

@Vicp73 Some GM's who operate at the cap floor know it's a must to have above average goal tending and some like ours don't.

Vicp73
Vicp73

@bubbamac19 @tag1  Keep in mind fellas, Nashville was always operating near the cap floor for many years, the fact that he's teams were so competitive truly is a remarkable achievement. He is very respected throughout the league, the type of guy that would have many teams calling the minute he makes himself available. Someone with those credentials doesn't work for Garth Snow.

tag1
tag1

@bubbamac19 @tag1 i was just reading the Nashville boards and there seems to be a problem between Trotz and MDZ and some think Trotz might be a goner this off season (not only because of this) although MDZ had problems with the coaches when he was with the rangers.

bubbamac19
bubbamac19

@tag1 @bubbamac19 He's had some good ones, including Mike Dunham, who would be an improvement over any goalie we have now. Hard to believe our goalies are that bad, but they are and the D isn't any help.

Interesting blurb on ESPN about building championships - defense first. Reinhart had better be the next Potvin if they're gonna be any good.

tag1
tag1

@bubbamac19 I think he is used to coaching a team that has above average goal tending and that ain't us.