Kings, Heat Moving in on Islanders Records

Kevin Schultz

Both the NBA and NHL Finals kick off this weekend, the former in San Antonio and the latter in Los Angeles, and two teams involved are getting near to some historical Islanders streaks.

The Los Angeles Kings and Rangers both had a long journey to the Finals. They each played 14 games in the first two rounds this year and made the final, something that’s never happened before for one Finals team let alone both. For the Kings, they took it one step further and are poised to tie, or beat, a pre-dynasty Islanders record should they come from behind in the best-of-seven. 

The 1975 New York Islanders won eight elimination games in a row, an NHL record. IPB Historian Steven Steinsaltz explains how they, and the Kings, made their runs:

In 1975, the Islanders faced elimination 9 times, staying alive the first 8 of those – one vs. the Rangers in the preliminary round, 4 against Pittsburgh in the quarter-finals, and 3 against Philadelphia in the semi-finals.
LA has gone 7 for 7 so far – 4 against San Jose, 2 against Anaheim, 1 against Chicago.

Go Kings! And if we’re getting picky, get it done quickly so as not to disrupt any records. (sidebar, follow @theroyalhalf for all your Kings fodder).

As far as the NBA goes, the Miami Heat and San Antonio Spurs begin their Finals series this week, with the winner taking home their fourth NBA title in the new millennium (and to be fair, San Antonio won in 1999, so it would almost be their fifth if I wasn’t being selective).

The Heat have won 11 playoff series in a row over the last three seasons and can make it 12 in a row with a series win this week over San Antonio. They’re still a couple years away from the Islanders record of 19 consecutive series wins but this is as close as anyone has come recently (and maybe as good a chance as anyone will have as LeBron is 29). The NBA has four rounds, so even if Miami swept the 2015 playoffs, they would still need a conference finals victory in 2016 to tie the Isles’ legendary mark.

But — the Heat could have been a lot closer had they not lost to the Mavericks in 2011. If we adjust history and let the Heat win that series, a victory over the Spurs this year would put them at 16, and they could surpass the Islanders mark next year. But that’s not the case, and there are two more years of domination they need to achieve.

And as far as titles go, the Islanders four-straight are in some elite company. Steven complied a list of franchises that own streaks of at least three titles in a row, which is mostly lofty company:

Boston Celtics (4+)
Chicago Bulls
Green Bay Packers
Los Angeles Lakers
Montreal Canadiens (4+)
New York Islanders (4+)
New York Yankees (4+)
Oakland A’s
Toronto Maple Leafs
UCLA Basketball (4+)



111 comments
isledogs19
isledogs19

The Isles traded for the negotiating rights for veteran defenseman Dan Boyle, sending back a conditional fifth-round pick in the 2015 NHL draft to the San Jose Sharks that will become a fourth-round pick should Boyle sign with the team.


Good move! Veteran D-man with skill!

TonyM
TonyM

@ gowhale Half of what he was originally offered! 5yrs 25 mil, his stock has dropped dramatically due to his performance (or lack thereof) agaainst the Rags. One dimensional player who has to be motivated to bring his A game! His best years are very possibly behind him!

gowhale
gowhale

Just to spark conversation now that the Habs have been eliminated...not that he'd take it, how much would you be willing to pay Vanek to return to the Island?


And I've been scouring the Goalie FA market for the offseason.  Which of the following signings would make the most sense for the Isles, assuming Nabby isn't resigned?  Chad Johnson, Hiller, Brodeur, Bryz, or Dubnyk?

puckznpadz
puckznpadz

any thought of grabbing Brian Boyle if he becomes available? Could help solidify third line and PK

cournoyer
cournoyer

Nice outlet pass Giradi. The Kings forecheck is nightmarish . They beat the Blackhawks.......the Blackhawks. Shows you how weak the east is

Ten to one Kreider tries to run Quick

erika
erika

Bettman giving his end of year speach on XM radio. A reporter actually asked about the sale of the Islanders. His response: I just spoke to Charles on Monday, and he has still not decided if he wants to sell part of the team, or not sell at all. Well, my question then would be, why then were Wang and Bettman talking during a busy time in the N.H.L if not about a pending sale??

Secondly, GO KINGS!!! How did the Rangers all of a sudden get so "speedy" as everyone is reporting. I'll tell you: COACHING. AV knows how to utilize his players. Look at the progress of McDonough and Kreider under him. Can you imagine if we had a coach that let Grabner loose??

TonyM
TonyM

                   Kings are too big, too physical and too talented for the Rags! LA in five! With  a "real" coach Isles could finish fifth or six in a diluted Eastern Conference! If it's true that Florida is looking to move the top pick I would give them Hamonic, Bailey and the fifth pick! With Enblad, Rheinhart and deHaan Isles in two years would have the best defense in the NHL! Put Lee on the left wing with JT and Okposo, Grabner, Neilsen and Strome the second line! Nelson,  Martin and Clutterbuck the third line. Sign Boyle as a UFA, the defense, Viz and Hickey, deHaan and Rheinhart, Boyle and Strait! With a competent coach this team (with Halak in goal) would make the playoffs next season and not, as the number eight seed!

mrcisback
mrcisback

 Boy would i take anyone of the coaches from the final 8 teams in the NHL playoffs to coach the Islanders.

mrcisback
mrcisback

 If the Rangers could have won tonights game they would of had a chance. LA woke up in the middle of the game and took over. Lundqvist kept the Rangers in this game in the 3rd period. With out him they lose 5-2 or 6-2.  The Rangers were flying in the 1st period and seemed to run out of gas in the 3rd period. I don't see LA losing the next game either. Now back to the pitiful Mets. 

steviel
steviel

Kings dominated second half of the game! Karl Hagelin with his best Michael Grabner breakaway imitation tonight! I think the Rags missed their big chance tonight! 

dkdk
dkdk

Boy does Justin Williams get big goals

ivo
ivo

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

steviel
steviel

Boy! Kenny Albert makes me miss Doc Emerick! 

mrcisback
mrcisback

 Lets calm down about comparing Drew Doughty to Denis Potvin as a defenseman. When Doughty scores 311 goals and almost 900 points in the NHL and is a brick wall on defense come see me.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@TonyM he did have 68 points between three teams this year, two of which were among the worst in the nhl, so theres no doubt, in the regular season at least, he can put up a ton of points.  he'll get paid still, probably close to what your projected offer is if i were to guess. 

willymayshays
willymayshays

@gowhale


I'd take Vanek back, but for that kind of money I'd MUCH rather someone who gives me more EVERY night, doesn't hurt your team with a lot of lazy penalties and can play some defense!

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@puckznpadz god no. he does show up for the playoffs i have to give him that but hes a terrible regular season player. and our pk is pretty solid with forwards like clutterbuck, franzie, cizikas, and grabner. 

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@mitchfritz they played uncharacteristically bad the first half of the game. its definitely far from over, but the kings are only going to get better as the series progresses.  going to be interesting to see if the rangers can keep up with them. 

dzruggie
dzruggie

@erika Good observation on the XM report.  I heard it as well and you ask a good question, why would they be talking on a Monday this week?  Probably with Wang having other vested interests or services in the NHL perhaps but clearly Brett from the NY Post missed a good follow up question opportunity.  

Don22
Don22

@erika I don't know that anybody is holding Grabner back.  He gets a breakaway or 2 a game but has trouble finishing.  I think the answer to Grabner's issues is he needs to grow his hair longer like Haglin.  

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@orange2327 he actually had more life in that game then he showed in most playoff games.  couple of bad turnovers but he atleast tried to go to the net with the puck a few times

dkdk
dkdk

I agree MrC, but I am not doubting the rags too much. If the LA rolls next game I think it could be over in 5.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@mrcisback true - but drew doughty is as good as any defensemen in the nhl today 

Billy Thoesen
Billy Thoesen

Potvin scored 1060 pts. ,in the NHL

and is one of the greatest defenseman who ever lived period

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@willymayshays if we can get vanek for a couple million less cap hit per year than was allegedly offered and a 4 year deal, i would do it.  i would not offer him what was offered mid season though. 

jepliberty
jepliberty

@Don22 @erika 

Why, Is he Samson? Has Delilah cut his hair and he lost strength, or the ability to put a puck in the frigging net on his breakaways? lol

erika
erika

@dkdk I would LOVE for you to be right. L.A. looks slow, and I hope it is rust, but they had an awful lot of givaways. Thankfully, Rags could not convert on most....let's hope the Kings underestimated them and put them away ASAP!

mrcisback
mrcisback

@dkdk DK, LA will sit down in the next few days and look at what went wrong in the 1st period and correct those mistakes. LA looked tired in the first and didn't look nearly as good as they did against Chicago. If LA wins just 1 game in the next 3 games there still in great shape. If the Rangers had a player similar to John Tavares they would probably win the cup.

mrcisback
mrcisback

@slapshot18_rs Slapshot your right but to compare him to Denis Potvai is absurd. Potvin would have put half the Rangers team through a wall already.

mrcisback
mrcisback

@Billy Thoesen Your right about those numbers. One website i looked on i thought had incorrect numbers. I always thought he had over 1,000 total points. The website also missed the fact that Potvin scored 101 points in one season. My theory is even more stronger now.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

hard to say - he took half the amount of faceoffs as casey, but was 3% better at them...if he doubles his faceoff totals chances are he will probably slip a bit too so im not so sure hes a huge upgrade in the faceoff department.  if he played like he does in the playoffs then i wouldnt mind having him on the team at all, as a 4th liner as you are saying (original post said 3rd line and pks), but hes not a very good regular season player and he takes very poor penalties.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

this is what LA has been doing throughout the whole playoffs.  they go behind and always are resilient enough to rally back.  rangers were fast but how many times do you expect drew doughty to just fall on the blue line and give up a break away, or voynov kicking that puck into the net.  rangers were fortunate with the goals they scored. 

shlo
shlo

@erika @dkdk Not sure it was rust. I think they were surprised, got back to their game and won. Rangers had very few shots in the 3rd. Sutter made the adjustments he needed and solved the "speed" problem.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@mrcisback 

And oh those hip checks by Potvin, made guys keep their eyes on him skating with the puck.

Don22
Don22

@mrcisback Not to mention Potvin's worst offensive season was 41 points and Doughty has topped that only once.  Not taking anything away from Doughty, but he has a ways to go to even be mentioned with Potvin.

Don22
Don22

@slapshot18_rs I think that was the Rangers game plan - come out as fast as they can and take advantage of some tired legs.  And I think LA knew that and countered with a game plan of trying to withstand it for a bit and keep following through on their checks.  The combo of flying around and getting pounded wore on the Rags.  My bet is they slow it down on Saturday.  The only 2 guys that seemed to be able to handle the constant hits were Kreider and Boyle, because they are so big.  Everyone else was hitting the ice constantly. 

erika
erika

@shlo @erika @dkdk And hence, that's what a good coach does....make adjustments that work!

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

im not saying they arent able to win. but ive watched both teams throughout the whole playoffs and game 1 only verified what i was hoping. kings are clearly the stronger and more well rounded team, and thats even when they played a pretty poor game and the rangers were flying.  rangers have an incredible goalie so of course naything can happen, but without lundqvist this isnt even a series. 

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

after last night, it may seem short sighted, but i think that the rangers are a little out of their league.  the kings were god awful for a lot of that game but they're the best team in the league at adjusting to their opponents. they have a ton of depth forecheck so well.  when the kings finally turned it on, they completely dominated puck possession.  like i said, the rangers have a shot at winning this series but lundqvuist needs to play out of his mind for it to happen.  quick came up with some huge saves too

shlo
shlo

@erika I have been saying this for months , we need a new coach.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@shlo @erika 

Perhaps even if had the talent on the Kings to coach, Cappy probably would only be able to grab the 8th seed again.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

they were absolutely dominated in the third period, when the kings made adjustments.  kings first period was the worst of their entire playoff run, and the two goals the rangers had were given to them.  so yes, in my opinion they are a bit out of their league. doesnt mean they cant win games or even the series, but its not going to be easy to do.