BRUINS 6 ISLANDERS 3 Bruins Too Much, Too Often

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Keith Quinn, Islanders Point Blank:

Well, the return of injured Islanders Lubomir Visnovski and Evgeni Nabokov didn’t go off as well as we’d hoped.  The “Big, Strong”(C) Bruins were just too much for the Isles to handle and pulled away in the early in the third and slammed the doors behind them

The Isles weathered a mighty storm through the first twelve or so minutes as the Bruins made it known that they were not keen on being swept in this season series.  Maybe it was game plan or just circumstance, but the Islanders looked to be dumping and chasing a lot early and that led to a heavy shot disparity when Boston retrieved pucks, carried out and back into the Isles end.

The Bruins got on the board first when Loui Eriksson took a Daniel Paille pass behind the goal line to Kevin Poulin’s left and fired it over the goaltender’s shoulder at 7:47 of the first.

By ten minutes in, the shots were 15-2 and it looked like the Isles were going to get run out of their building.  Poulin was giving up some meaty rebounds, but most of the Bruins shots, fortunately, weren’t overly threatening.

The Isles turned the momentum with a power play on a Johnny Boychuck interference. The addition of Lubomir Visnovski to the first unit got some chances with Kyle Okposo being stopped on a point blank shot.  The second unit also looked much improved with Andrew MacDonald and Calvin deHaan manning the points.  Cal Clutterbuck just missed a close in wrist shot and Brock Nelson a tip in and later he lost control of a net cut jam-in at the last second.

Capuano had the line roulette going as well to try to space some scoring.  This, the rebirth of Grabner/Nielsen/Okposo which paid immediate dividends.

Frans Nielsen tied the game at 15:29 off a slap-pass from Okposo.  Nielsen tipped the puck which was saved by Johnson, but Frans followed it up and was able to lift it over the goaltender.

The next shift was Vanek/Tavares/Clutterbuck, with the fourth line remaining the same and the 3rd as Regin/Nelson/Bailey.

The end of the period saw Zdeno Chara taking a roughing penalty on Clutterbuck, and the NVMC organist trolling Chara.

The second was a bit more wide open and the Isles lost it, tied it, lost it, tied it, lost it.  Here’s how.

At the 4:50 mark, Brad Marchand beat a diving Poulin and a flailing MacDonald off a cross-ice feed from Patrice Bergeron.  It came off a faceoff win in the Islanders zone.

Three and a half minutes later, the Isles had some extended zone time and Thomas Hickey made a pass to Okposo behind the net from his knees after getting knocked down.  Okposo found Grabner in the slot and Grabner released it quickly past Johnson.  Okposo was a magician on the shift turning Shawn Thornton inside out along the boards (okay, maybe magician is strong).

Thornton would get some revenge a few minutes later against the Isles 4th line and the uncommon Strait/Carkner defense pairing.  A strong cycle by the Bruins drew a delayed penalty and with the extra attacker on, Thornton mad a pinballing cross-ice pass that somehow landed on Reilly Smith’s stick for a tip-in past Poulin.

Okposo and Grabner evened things up again at the 15:08 mark.  At the tail end of an Okposo penalty for cross-checking rat-diver Brad Marchand, Grabner sprung himself on a breakaway when he stripped Dougie Hamilton at the point.  Okposo joined him for a 2 on 0 out of the box.  A couple of cross-crease passes later and Okposo had his 23rd of the season and a tied game.

The Isles squandered a power play drawn by Vanek on a partial breakaway and allowed a late goal to Carl (don’t call me Soderstrom) Soderberg who got around a stumbling Hickey, cut across the crease and deposited the puck in the far side of the net.

 

The Bruins took penalty at the 20:00 minute mark (Bergeron; Tripping), but as is the Isles, they couldn’t get it going to start the third.  It feels like they oftn can’t get power plays going in the beginnings of periods anecdotally, but this one was stagnant.

And almost as soon as the power play was over, the Bruins took the game for good.  The fourth line was caught scrambling with Martin making a diving play toward a rebound and almost knocking it in.  Then, behind the net, he lost a wall battle, followed by a lost battle by MacDonald, followed by a pass from Marchand to Bergeron in the slot.  Clutterbuck lost his battle there and Bergeron fired a wrister past Poulin.
The Bruins really clamped down after that and sloppy Islander hockey ensued.  They had difficulty cracking the neutral and offensive zones and completing passes.

The icing on the cake was a weak wrist shot taken by Chara from the blue line which, if left alone, probably would’ve gone wide.  But Poulin got a piece of it and deflected it into the net.  He was lifted in favor of Nabokov at that point and he faced one shot in the remaining 11:44.  And somehow, the Bruins still outshot the Isles on the period, 10-8.

NOTICINGS:

  • Andrew MacDonald saw a steep drop in his ice time (18:24) with the insertion of Visnovski (22:08) to the lineup.  Calvin deHaan led the D with 22:17.
  • The 4th line was a combined -10 tonight.  Not sure what happened there.  Maybe the matchups were bad, just a bad night or whatever.  But that’s not too easy to do with less than 10:00 of even strength ice time.  They’ve been Capuano’s apparent shut down or shot blocking line lately, but given some underlying numbers, sometimes these things come back to bite.
  • In actuality, this was a team loss though (except for Grabner/Nielsen/Okposo).  It’s unfortunate because they did battle for a while, but this was maybe half a game worth.  They need to do more.
  • Zdeno Chara gained his 500th NHL point tonight on his goal.  Thanks Mike!
  • The intermission interview with Howie Rose and Kris King was pretty ridiculous.  He said about as much as the NHL said with it’s reiteration of the rule.  He didn’t clearly define what a “distinct kicking motion” is, chided Kerry Fraser’s response and essentially told us the war room knows best and not to worry. Predictable, expected, annoying.
  • The Isles won the faceoff and hits battle tonight, which was surprising and shots on the game were tied.
  • The Islanders have won the hits battle with Boston in all three games this season.  Once with shots tied, once leading in shots and once losing in shots.
316 comments
Paul Grzymalski
Paul Grzymalski

Is it me or is it time for Carkner to go somewhere else?

gleichzahl
gleichzahl

people bash on everything this franchise does...and then fall in love with ryan strome... and want to trade frans nielsen...

mrcisback
mrcisback

               I  think Tony Granato the assistant coach with Pittsburg is one of the guys that would be a good fit as the coach of the Islanders. Whats your opinions.

Zach14
Zach14

Goaltending has been inconsistent just like everything else with this team

tomba
tomba

Skates in mud.....time is done...thanks for effort

rmreturns
rmreturns

@gleich...I like Frans, but if Strome is to be the second line center, and Nelson or Sundstrom the third, Frans will never worth more then he is now. And he's gonna be 30. Frans should bring back a serious return along the blue line, or in Net.

Gotta trade from your strength, to address your weakness.. I don't like the Patriots- but they are correct with the mantra: "lose a guy a year too early, rather then keep a guy a year to long."

Nelson has played very well this season, and there is no reason to doubt Strome. I think the Isles have to "hear" what Frans is worth across the NHL..

They don't have to move- but a center who scores and plays 200'ft of solid defense is worth a HUGE HAUL to a few playoff teams..

Starz31
Starz31

@gleichzahl There's no good reason not to be in love with ryan strome. Going to be the best forward we've produced since Tavares and JT was pure luck. 

bubbamac19
bubbamac19

I like Frans but he's the best trade chip they have to get a good d man or goalie. Gotta give to get. Isles d is perennially near last in the league. Can't win that way.

Chris R
Chris R

@mrcisback forget about any coach coming from anywhere other than the isles organization....Weight is the next coach..If crappy ever gets fired....

Don22
Don22

@mrcisback Never thought about him until you mentioned it.  I don't think that's a bad idea at all.  My only concern is most of his coaching experience has been with pretty talented/veteran teams.   Can he lead a young group that needs guidance?  I don't know that answer.  But I like the thinking.


Maybe he can get his sister to play on the team.

rmreturns
rmreturns

Carkner is a depth defender, not a top 6. One more year, if that, on the roster...

Poulin had a bad night. He made nice saves, but on the fourth goal, he was a pylon- too far back? I know the guy had a ton of speed, but that was too easy.

The sixth goal speaks for itself..

Marchand is that guy you hate, unless he plays for your club. Never seen a guy so strong on his stakes, who falls over so easy.. My Boston friends feel the same way about Clutterbuck- he plays his role very well..

mrcisback
mrcisback

@rmreturns   I imagine a lot of teams would be interested in Nielson. You might get a better package back then you think you can for him. It can't hurt to gage  his value around the league. Also don't forget this kid Lee looks like he's going to be pretty good too.

orange2327
orange2327

Really?? Well he's been with the organization since 2011!! Frankly JT scored 25 goals his first year on a poor team.. Strome looked overmatched way too many times. Hopefully he grows gets stronger but with this organization its a tossup!!

vvmayshays
vvmayshays

@bubbamac19

Sorry but why trade a guy who is good now for another guy who is good now.  We need to trade picks or prospect or wait for FA.  JT is the best talent this team has had in almost 30 yr's.  IT's being wasted.   

We need to improve this roster sooner, not later.  Trade Amac (he is terrible and overrated) and get picks back.  Use that and other picks/prospects (not named Pulock,  Rienhart, Strome or Nelson)   Improve the defense and the Goalie situation.

mrcisback
mrcisback

@bubbamac19   We all like Frans Nielsen but he's one of the players your probably going to have to trade to get a top defenseman or goaltender. Ryan Strome hasn't proven anything yet but he's a top prospect. I think he's going to be real good though.

orange2327
orange2327

Corsi guys will have some gulible fools thinking weight is the second coming of toe Blake!! Reality is its more of the same BS!!

mrcisback
mrcisback

@Chris R  I disagree, i think any assistant coach would jump at the chance to coach his own team especially with a young superstar on it.

mrcisback
mrcisback

@Don22 @mrcisback  I would start looking at all the assistant coaches in the league that are on top teams like Chicago, Anaheim, Boston, Pittsburg, St louis and maybe LA. Maybe we can hire someone who has been used to winning that can bring a fresh start and new ideas to the Islanders next year.  All i know is I'm tired of hearing the phase battle level and some guys battle level was not there. Then bench these players.

shamwow
shamwow

@rmreturns@dkdk

"When they signed him, I don't think they had 6 NHL defenders under contract."

That's a fitting inscription for the statue you suggested be erected in Snow's honor.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@shamwow @rmreturns i do appreciate that whenever i post, you feel the need to comment. its nice having somebody follow me around on the internet, sniffing my internet "droppings".  look, you did again just below this one..

your amusing as an internet stalker..

rmreturns
rmreturns

@dkdk you might 2 years ago: when Strait wasn't here. Hickey wasn't here, i don't think they had traded for VIZ yet, Donovan wasn't here, CdH wasn't here.. Who were the defenders at the start of the short 2013 season?


Carkner wasn't supposed to be a savior, hasn't played like one.. Great signing? heck no.. but the team isn't 5 games under 500 because the Carkner deal cost them a shot at far superior players. When they signed him, i don't think they had 6 NHL defenders under contract. 

dkdk
dkdk

And Carkner was given a 3 year deal so I think snow is getting a pass there as well. You don't give 3 years to a guy that won't be in the top 6, or actually the top 4.

shamwow
shamwow

@rmreturns

Top 5 draft pick for Clutterbuck is a bad deal...

Unless your Boston friend is named Milbury.

rmreturns
rmreturns

@orange2327 fair enough..but writing that you want a sixth round pick to be promoted because he is having a great season- without acknowledging it was a great pick- is ridiculous in nature..

That the same pick doesn't have a full year of AHL ice time, and is lighting it up- well some credit needs to given to the AHL coaches who got him to this level. 


He didn't get this good by accident, and he wasn't picked in the sixth round by accident. He also chose to sign with the Isles, when he could have waited 2 months to sign with any NHL team.


Snow and the franchise did a good job here. Just give credit where it due, and believe even a broken watch is right twice a day. 


Hey, they screwed up they NINO experience, but man up and give credit when they get it right. 



shamwow
shamwow

@orange2327

Even a blind syphilitic monkey throwing crap at a draft board hits on a winner from time to time...

And the monkey wears a better fitting sports jacket, too.

I think RM's out sipping banana infused vodka with our new GM right now.


orange2327
orange2327

I reserve judgment with anything that this organization does short or long term!! No track record no real results!! We have drafted high up for years we should be brimming with good young player who help the team high in night out be better than this version!!IMO!!

rmreturns
rmreturns

@orange2327 l

i disagree with your position on the owner, the GM, and the coach, but understand your frustration.


Anders Lee-i think he can become an above average NHL winger.


Question: 

what year, and what round was Anders Lee drafted?


2009, sixth round by Garth Snow.


If your unhappy because he is having a strong AHL season- then my point: Snow drafted him, he's having a strong season in the Isles farm system. so its kinda silly to say the GM cant draft, or develop talent when your advocating a sixth round draft pick is having a great season in the Isles development system, and should be promoted to the NHL. 


Strome is 20, Lee nearly 3 years older then Strome. So is Lee a late bloomer, or is Strome a slacker. or maybe since neither guy is 24 yet, we should be a bit patient and see what happens..




orange2327
orange2327

@rmreturns how much and for how long must these guys be coddled/babied?? Many of strome's contemporaries are in the NHL producing as useful players with their respective teams!! I say this is hogwash!! And I apologize if I was gruff and terse with you but this is the great divide between you and me and others who feel like I do!! I do not place much hope in this franchise's ability to nurture the group of prospects that you speak highly of!! There is no track record for sustained success here.. Frankly I think that's not even debatable!! I know you'll throw strome/nelson/dehaan etc but when you are mired in perennial losing the path you believe in never comes to fruition. The crux of this franchise from its inegmatic owner to its in over his head gm to its less than capable coach make this process a bridge too far!! Unless a better gm/coach/scouts/development system is put in place your way will never work!! A NEW GM/COACH both with experience and a decent track record MUST be put in place to have any chance whatsoever!!

rmreturns
rmreturns

@orange: Anders Lee - doesn't yet have a full AHL season, so it's not like he has buried down there for ages. His goal was a wrist shot from outside the circle, and his coverage off the puck wasn't very good. He is an RFA- indentured servant, so he isn't going anywhere. Regin is on a one year deal- he's just keeping the spot warm for Lee.. You might see Lee for a cup of coffee this year, but I expect we shall see more of him next season.

He is not a fourth line player, he isn't getting top line minutes on the Island right now either. So letting him get top line minutes with Strome in B'Port is pretty good. That's 2/3's of a possible line next season..

mrcisback
mrcisback

@orange2327  I couldn't agree more. When Strome comes back up hopefully Lee isn't far behind. I think we seen enough of Regin already.

orange2327
orange2327

How come Lee isn't up yet?? He scored a nice goal last year shouldn't we have seen him already instead of that waste if time regin??

mrcisback
mrcisback

@orange2327  I think Strome might be a better play maker then a scorer. He might wind up with 20 goals a year but have a ton of assists.

Ryan Sweeney
Ryan Sweeney

@orange2327 you're comparing a once in a generation player with a kid that is supposed to be an all star in the league.  tavares and strome are not equivilant players.  JT is a prodigy who has been the best player on the ice his entire life at every level...strome is going to be an amazing #2 center in this league....to compare their first years and decide that strome is a bust is silly.  i know thats not exactly what you said, but strome is no tavares at this stage of the game so i wouldnt have expectations that high.  he will be a stud though, count on that.  and you said it, when he grows and gets stronger he will be a force...hes pretty small right now.

mrcisback
mrcisback

@vvmayshays @bubbamac19  Unfortunately Ryan Strome, Brock Nelson Griffen Reinhart, Ryan Pulock along with Frans Nielson are the players and or prospects that other GM's would want back in any trade for a top goaltender or top defenseman. 

dkdk
dkdk

Hey shamwow ..... I really thought about that the other day when someone, i forgot who, claimed we were so far ahead of the oilers and they had 3 number ones in a row and 2 things came to mind ....

1- why do we grade against the worst and not the best or even the rest of the league?

2-sometimes it isn't just about getting the one it is WHEN you get the one. If we swapped stamkos for RNH wouldn't each of those teams be different looking? What if we had yakopuv and the oilers had JT ... Some big change there no? And what if the lightning wound up winning the lottery and pairing stamkos with JT?

Point is there are some years where you get a no brainer stud. But more often than not you aren't getting a guy fast tracked to the Hall.

shamwow
shamwow

@orange2327

You're correct... Sorry, I was shamelessly pandering.

I wanted to see how the other half (RM) lives.

shamwow
shamwow

@orange2327

Hey OJ (not Orenthal James)...

This franchise, as the inimitable DK had said previously, is just one fortuitous Ping-Pong bounce (Tavares pick) removed from AHL caliber

mrcisback
mrcisback

@mitchfritz @Brian Clampett @mrcisback @bubbamac19  I actually wanted Sean Couturier with the 5th pick and my second choice was Dougie Hamlton. Strome wasn't even on my radar with the 5th pick. I knew Strome was talented but i didn't expect Snow to select him with the 5th. Lets just hope he does real well.

orange2327
orange2327

And after they give up on him being a serviceable pro the corsi guys will be asking what can we get for him in a trade cause as you said this guy was supposed to be a major offensive stud not just a serviceable pro who will get you 15-20 goals!!

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@Brian Clampett @mrcisback @bubbamac19

gonna be quite a few around here who owe me an apology when this all plays out...when I dared mention strome wasn't all that .the reactions here was like I killed there dog..im also amazed out how many have conviently lowered expectations...he went from the next superstar to now he's gonna be a servicible  pro...

vvmayshays
vvmayshays

@Brian Clampett@mrcisback@bubbamac19 

I'd take that bet.

People are always exaggerating to prove their point.  I have know idea how good he will be but I'd bet a bunch he will play in the NHL for the better part of 10 yrs, at least.

mrcisback
mrcisback

@Chris R @mrcisback  If i was Snow i would start looking at other assistant coaches. I really don't know what his thinking is. You might be right maybe he's thinking that Doug Weight is going to be the next coach. I just hope thats not the case.