Capuano still believes in Josh Bailey, but Isles need him to produce

Christian Arnold, Islanders Point Blank:

There is no question Josh Bailey struggled in the 2013-14 season, but the Islander Head Coach Jack Capuano has not lost faith
in the 24-year-old forward. The Islander coach was asked during an interview with Islanders Insight.com about Bailey’s struggles last year and how the team was planning to help him take the next step in his development.

USATSI_7833466_110579513_lowres“As a coach I believe in these players and everybody is going to go through it,” Capuano said to Andy Graziano about Bailey’s struggles. “No matter what sport it is. You’re going to go through a tough stretch… When Josh is given the confidence and playing the way that he can play he can help our hockey club. I think it’s the past. I think Josh knows the second half of the year was good for him. Obviously he didn’t get off to the start that he wanted to and be consistent in the play that he wanted to. The potential is there, so as a coaching staff it’s our our goal and our job to make sure that we maximize each player’s potential.

“And I see Josh just growing as a player and getting better. I feel he’s going to have a much better year.”

Bailey did not have the year everyone was hoping for despite starting the season strong. In the first 12 games Bailey recorded eight points (four goals, four assists) before his point production plummeted off the map. He would go a span of 44-games, from October 25th to January 23rd, without a goal. Bailey would go another 14-games without finding the back of the net after that.

The centerman turned winger turned things around late in the year and finished the season with 38 points (eight goals, 30 assists).

Bailey’s struggles have certainly drawn the ire of Islander fans who have become increasingly frustrated with the former first round draft pick. Rushing Bailey into the NHL in 2008 has certainly hindered his development and he has struggled to gain traction — outside of stretches here and there. The Islanders have given him plenty of opportunities to develop into the player he has been expected, but he has not blossomed.

4-17-12 Bailey DLBailey is his own toughest critic and you could see it on his face during the course of last season that he was frustrated with himself, and how he was performing.

The Islanders continued belief in Bailey has to be reassuring to him, but eventually the team will have to decide when is it time to cut the chord. In June rumors swirled that Bailey was on the trading block. That could have been a sign that the Islanders were thinking maybe it was time to give him a shot somewhere else or just leaving all their options open going into the 2014 NHL Draft in Philadelphia.

Either way, this season Bailey will need to take the next step. The Islanders have several young promising forwards who will be looking to grab a spot in the lineup and this will be the first season that there will be a true competition for spots on Long Island. Bailey will need to pick up where he left off at the end of last season and continue it into 2014-15.

Bailey cannot let a strong start tapper off either. He needs to show he can be a constant contributor night in and night out, and he deserves a spot in the lineup.    




157 comments
Vicp73
Vicp73

Whether  Capuano believes in Bailey or not is irrelevant, Garth calls the shots.  The fact that Bailey had a horrible season and wasn't a scratch once proves that point. Capuano the 'Yes' man will do what he's told

Gregg Hopps
Gregg Hopps

Problem is, I believe in Capuano....

dinbigd
dinbigd

I see no reason to "give" Bailey anything. He could start on 3rd line & go from there. Reduce the goal expectations & play D 1st mentality but knowing Cap he will insert Bailey on 2cnd line bumping Strome down to 3rd. I really do not expect any greatness from Bailey. His contract dictates that he will be an Isle for a while so its time to curb his expectations & use a more rational approach to what he brings.That in itself will help define his role hopefully enabling him to be a more complete player.One thing he cannot do even w/ toned down expectations is not score in 44 games.

j_spikett
j_spikett

does cappy believe in the easter bunny and santa as well?

Kevin Woods
Kevin Woods

This will be his make or break year with the Isles.

Do not forget we were ready to give up on KO but thank god the organization was patient.


Jim Miller
Jim Miller

It's a test being an Islander fan.

Logan Monstuart
Logan Monstuart

The Islanders ruined Josh Bailey. Sorry. Was absolutely the wrong type of player to play in the NHL as soon as he did. It's something he has never recovered from and never will.


Imagine being an 18-year-old, with no worldly experience. And your first party is at the Playboy mansion. That's what the Isles did to Bailey. No wonder he's never blossomed. He was shocked by what he saw.

cournoyer
cournoyer

He's never improved as a hockey player and seems to care less. Turnover machine.If he  has a  sub par "Pre" I'd throw him on waivers



moonbeam
moonbeam

it's time to lower expectations on bailey.  he won't be an impact player, he won't score a lot of goals.  if they can figure out another way for him to be useful, he might help the team.  but don't expect too much.

finnmaccul
finnmaccul

@tpjm  buddy, what is your problem?  "LI sucks?"  Are you an angry Brooklyn "hipster" who used to come from LI, but who now lives in North Williamsburg bashing the burbs to anyone who'll listen?

tpjm
tpjm

Bailey is a bum.  He can't leave soon enough. He brings the team down. He's like LI - he sucks and is the ultimate LOSER.

mrcisback
mrcisback

I've made this comment about Bailey several months ago. Its hard to believe that only 5 players from Bailey's draft year 2008 have more points then Bailey has 6 years later. Lets face it, it wasn't the greatest draft. I get mad at Bailey because i know the guy has talent but he just looks disinterested most of the time. I would trade Bailey if the right deal comes along but i wouldn't just give him away either.

kevinpt
kevinpt

Serious question to all the Bailey haters: 

Are you hoping he has a terrible season and gets waived or traded? Personally, as frustrating as his play can be, I really hope he turns it around this year like Okposo did last year and proves everyone wrong, because it will help the team. I know it's not what everyone expects from a first round pick with his contract, but if he can put up around 50 pts playing on the third line and play solid defensively I'll take it.

dkdk
dkdk

Ain't that the truth Vic

doc942
doc942

@Logan Monstuart Ruined?  Please.  Some players develop and some players don't.  Ultimately, it comes down to talent, desire and yes, to some degree, being in the right place at the right time.

Jason Zimmermann
Jason Zimmermann

@cournoyer Turn over machine, wow, that would be great for drills! The Islanders have one in-house, and it only costs a few million. That should give them a decided edge in capitalizing!

jepliberty
jepliberty

@moonbeam 

If one was to agree with you on your point about Bailey, they would also have to agree that snow was a huge ahole for giving him that contract, as he has clearly shown over the course of his so called career that he is not worth even a fraction of it, as he has earned nothing, of the contract nor the praise of any of the fans.

dkdk
dkdk

He's an angry little hipster troll

Jason Zimmermann
Jason Zimmermann

@mrcisback Yes, he does look disinterested most of the time. That's why I hate him as a hockey player. Frankly, any move that gets him out of here is the right move.


And no doubt, '08 is a disappointing draft. It was billed as being deep, but not a lot of pan out.

Jason Zimmermann
Jason Zimmermann

@kevinpt I would love for him to turn it around. And I'm sick of the "like Okposo" argument. There's no comparable. Okposo was playing very well, in fact, he was one of the team's best players before his shoulder injury. Bailey has no history of success.


Bailey "turning it around" is a lot to count on.

Vicp73
Vicp73

@rmdeparts No problem RM, i will continue to defend Brassard over Bailey any day, 5 million for a second line center is the going rate these days. You don't believe it check out (cap geek) . Brassard was a key contributor in the Rangers run to the finals, does he deserve 5 mil? Probably not, but tell me what Bailey ever did to deserve 3.7 million? 

Vicp73
Vicp73

@doc942 @Logan Monstuart And the Islanders didn't ruin Nino either right Doc?? your boy Snow and Cappy could do no wrong in your eyes 

bammer26
bammer26

@dkdk - Throw him and a few more on here into ONE poster, many handles, one idiot...

kevinpt
kevinpt

@Jason Zimmermann @kevinpt

I'm not arguing that he's going to turn it around just because KO did. And I agree that KO definitely busts it more than Bailey. However, I do recall lots of people saying the exact same things about Okposo (we should trade him, he's a bust, he has not heart, he's invisible, etc) that they say about Bailey now.

dkdk
dkdk

And even when not playing well KO played hard and was visible. Bailey never busts it, avoids contact, and can go completely missing for games at a time.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@Vicp73 3.3 :P - sorry i had to.  


he was absolutely given that deal based on future expectation, but thats what they essentially did with brassard too because he hasnt earned 5 mil per - and like ive said in the past, watch how mad ranger fans are if brassard doesnt perform well this upcoming season, because hes most definitely going to block the rangers from resigning one of staal, hagelin, stepan, or zucc. 



doc942
doc942

@rmdeparts Are the Islanders the ONLY team that has a GM that has input on how players are used.  You guys make it sound like that this is a unique situation to the Islanders only.  Is Capuano a "yes" man.  To some degree maybe.  Do you really believe that Snow is telling him that he wants Bailey playing 15.25 minutes and Grabovski will play only with Kulemin and Clutterbuck only plays the 4th line etc and that if he doesn't "listen" he's fired.  Your theory is just plain stupid.

Don22
Don22

@Vicp73 @doc942 @Logan Monstuart Garth/Cappy aside - I'm not so sure they ruined Nino.  They just shipped him out is all.


But it's funny paradigm though:  They ruined Bailey by bringing him in fast and they ruined Nino by bringing him in slow.  Classic can't win.


That said, I am all for replacing them both - so let's not be calling me a shill, thank you.  LOL. 

dkdk
dkdk

What's up EJ .... I will say it again, you CANNOT CONSTANTLY rip the Coli and where the building sits if you were a fan. He is a Brooklyn expansion team fan, not an Islander fan.

The Coli was home to the greatest American based hockey team ever. It is a place where 99% have some of the best memories of our lives.

Jason Zimmermann
Jason Zimmermann

@kevinpt @Jason Zimmermann I agree. I was one of them who wanted him [Okposo] gone, but je and Bailey are not even close to being comparable. If Bailey had the slightest fraction of Okposo's passion, he'd have a chance.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@dkdk then why were people calling for him to be traded? by your logic, you guys should have been thrilled with him...hey atleast he worked hard and tried! 


or maybe its just easier to defend KO now after a breakout season at age 25. 

kevinpt
kevinpt

@dkdk

That's not true - there were stretches where KO disappeared and people said as much on these boards. 

Vicp73
Vicp73

@rmdeparts Like i said before they're BOTH OVERPAID!!! But what player makes my team better it's Brassard. Give it up with your boy Bailey he sucks. And funny how you don't mention the Grabo 5 million for 13 goals? Talk about shortening the measuring stick.

Vicp73
Vicp73

@slapshot18_rs @Vicp73 So slapshot , what would you have liked Sather to do? Let him walk? He had to pay him to fill in that 2nd line center position. As far as Snow goes there was no need to sign Bailey for that amount at that time. He could have given him a bridge contract before signing him to those terms 

Vicp73
Vicp73

@doc942 @rmdeparts Well maybe you can explain to me why Bailey who was invisible most nights was rewarded with top 6 minutes, not once benched or punished for little to no effort?  Why was a guy like Grabner a scratch ? C'mon  Doc tell me why Pandolfo and Reasoner played while guys like Nino sat down in Bridgeport ? Let me guess cause Cappy thought his chances of winning were better with Reasoner right? 

'My theory is just plain stupid? Haha what's stupid is your continuous defense of a coach and GM who have never "WON A THING!!!! at any level . Give me an example of Cappy or Garth having any success.

Keep on defending failure!

bammer26
bammer26

@dkdk - Morning bud. I've been in alot of the old buildings thru the east coast. The Coli has one of the best site lines I have ever sat in, with the old Aud in Buffalo and the Hartford Civic Center as a close second.


Regardless of the actual building, what was accomplished over the Cup run was one of the greatest feats in sports history. As you posted...


The constant ripping lately of the Island and the suburbs vs. BK by this one joker is down right sad. He lacks attention...

isles23
isles23

Dkdk. I completely agree, see it happens lol. But seriously as a fan of this team there should with out a doubt be a major part of you that will miss NVMC. Now I am also one that can see the potential positives with the move but that doesn't mean I won't miss the coli dearly.

mrcisback
mrcisback

@Jason Zimmermann @mrcisback What kind of response is "did i say something about that". I was just trying to be friendly. Whats your problem?

dkdk
dkdk

One other thing, when KO was struggling he was shooting wide a lot, but he was shooting. Bailey seems to shoot as a last resort.

Jason Zimmermann
Jason Zimmermann

@slapshot18_rs Just because you work hard, doesn't mean you're valuable or important to the team. Trying means nothing, results are everything. But if you're going to suck, at least try.

dkdk
dkdk

Slapshot there is a difference between being ok if a guy is traded and WANTING. A guy traded. Many would have been ok with trading KO and hey would have been wrong. But no one was dying for KO to go. That is where most are with Bailey. And quite honestly that is more on the coaching staff (or really the front office in actuality) than he player. He is overpaid, for far too long term. And he keeps getting rolled out in the top 6 and the second pp without deserving it. I bet if he were dropped to the bottom six and played solid defensively and chipped in an occasional goal he wouldn't take a beating. It is the fact he is getting far too much ice with far too little effort and results.

Jason Zimmermann
Jason Zimmermann

@kevinpt @dkdk Okposo always cared. He wasn't always playing well, but it was always clear that he cared. Sometimes he would try so hard that he screwed up. He got in other teammate's way, and it was pissing me off, but he never showed any signs of not caring.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@Vicp73 again, not arguing baileys contract is good - but do you really think brassard is the one you splurge on and let one of the guys i mentioned walk? i dont think it is.  would he have walked if he was offered anything below 5x5? im not so sure. 

dkdk
dkdk

Keep on defending failure! ...... And you will get more of the same!

dkdk
dkdk

Exactly EJ .... He is the ultimate one trick pony that still has yet to post a hockey point.

dkdk
dkdk

Matt .... I get it, believe me. What is done is done, we should all hope it helps the team achieve success. Even for those that prefer the team in Bklyn over the Island is largely ok with me. What isn't is the constant bashing of the Coli which is OUR HISTORY.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@dkdk i agree that he should start on the third line for sure, but disagree on the KO point - people were absolutely dying to trade KO. maybe not you, but people were, and now you couldnt find a person to say a single bad thing.


listen, im not an avid supporter of bailey, i just think im looking at it more realistic instead of the old jason zimmermann "hes the worst player to ever play on planet earth" approach.  he absolutely needs to prove himself before given valuable minutes, but given his age and his talent, hes not exactly a lost cause.  he can still be very valuable to an NHL club (yes, nhl) 


i just want to see the first 15-20 games play out. if at that point he isnt playing an improved game, id be fine with shipping him out then.  but im not eager to trade him for a bag of pucks or waive him. i think they're both very silly options at this point. 

bammer26
bammer26

@dkdk - Failure = Shill..and a bad one at that.


.Happy Sunday dk

tag1
tag1

@dkdk  Good morning men, have some mercy on bert, he's a little irritable, he's been scratching like a dog with fleas all week since he rode the N train, although from what I understand the bklyn hipsters consider bedbugs pets.  

dkdk
dkdk

Right back at ya EJ. Vic is so fickle .... With all of the success wang, snow, and cappy have had they should get the benefit of doubt .... Lol!

bammer26
bammer26

@dkdk - Yeah, the only benefit I'm giving that trifecta and the shill are...PUCK....off

tag1
tag1

@bammer26 @tag1  What's up ej, between bert and Charles Emerson I don't know whose worse.

bammer26
bammer26

@tag1- LOL (2)...probably one in the same....they both have that abrasive keyboard...

tag1
tag1

@bammer26 @tag1 the other guy has lowered himself to throwing the race card around, it's really sad, ah the dog days of summer, soon back to hockey talk.