Garth Snow: On Spano, No Offers Before Noon, Moulson

Garth Snow was on the FAN590 in Toronto to discuss the trade deadline and the trade of Thomas Vanek. Regarding the trade action yesterday, he said “it was really quiet in the morning, and the,n probably just past noon, it started to get some traction. Obviously, with the amount of transactions and trades after 3PM, it was more of a sprint to the end.”

Specifically regarding Thomas Vanek, Snow said that they didn’t see an actual offer for Vanek until about noon yesterday. He said “that was the first offer we received at any point.”

Snow’s full thoughts on the Moulson-Vanek trade through today:

“Early in the season we made that deal to improve our club and when you see the chemistry with Kyle [Okposo], John [Tavares] and Thomas, it was one of the most productive lines in the NHL. It was a fun line to watch. We wanted to improve our club. The pick, that we control a little bit, and can defer to next year. We felt that when we had Thomas around our group, we thought he may think differently about re-signing then if we called on July 1. The first and second were assets were things that I thought we could recoup if the season didn’t go as we hoped. Yesterday, it was time to recover some of the assets. Matt Moulson, when he was an Islander, he wasn’t a player we were looking to bring back on July 1.”

Snow didn’t address a specific reason for why Moulson would not be brought back, saying that “we got a player that we felt could make our team better.”

On why Andrew MacDonald was expendable:

“We are in a phase now where we were developing players like [Anders] Lee, [Ryan] Strome and [Calvin] De Haan. I think that is part of the reason we didn’t re-sign Andrew MacDonald. We are looking forward to getting them to the level we think they can be. For us it was the same mantra: We will draft and develop. “

On the number one priority this offseason:

“[Evgeni] Nabokov has been a terrific goalie in this league and with us. He has been a solid goalie. We ran into trouble when he got injured. Between Nabby being injured and Lubomir [Visnovsky] being out, it put players into roles that they probably weren’t ready for. Whether that is a defenseman going from 22 to 26 minutes or a goalie playing 3 of 4 rather than 1 of 4. Never use injuries as an excuse but it’s a fact.”

And finally, on John Spano, who tweeted this yesterday: “He is a hell of a guy.”




168 comments
Jason Zimmermann
Jason Zimmermann

Garth Snow, it really doesn't matter what you say. What it comes down to is this:


Matt Moulson

Probably Sam Reinhart/Aaron Ekblad

Reasonably Connor McDavid

A 2nd round pick

and Thomas Vanek


-for-


Sebastian Collberg



... Please, don't try to spin this. Just be honest and say you screwed up.

If your two main guys were hurt it's your job to come up with a plan. You go with BP kids that were not ready to save money. #takeitlikeaman

Ric Stark
Ric Stark

UNIONDALE (AP) - The New York Islanders made sports history this morning, trading every player in their organization (including the AHL Bridgeport SoundTigers) for a 2020 fourth round draft pick, a bucket of pucks, three Sparky dolls, and a large pizza. When asked about the trade, general manager Garth Snow said "the draft pick will give us a great deal of flexibility, and our scouts think that the Sparky dolls have top-six forward potential." When dumbfounded reporters pointed out to Snow that the Islanders would now be unable to ice a team and therefore be required to forfeit all the games remaining in the 2013-14 season as well as the entire 2014-15 campaign, Snow stated that he remained optimistic that "the solution to our problems could be found in our locker room, and we are looking forward to our draft party."

gleichzahl
gleichzahl

anyway, garth spins it as breaking even.  the islanders had the swedish kid as 22nd, which in their eyes makes him a 'first rounder' and he's got two years under his belt already.  plus, habs make playoffs and there's your second rounder.  so if you buy that, he got back what he had to ship to buff with mm...

Islander fans!!! Do not be surprised if we become the Quebec Nordiques!!!! They will get a team very soon!!! 2017 to be exact!!!

Here's a riddle! What does an ex-goalie GM and a billionaire Asian owner have in common? Answer; They both have no friggin' idea how to run a hockey organization! !

Sell the team Wang!!!!! Your friggin' clueless like the people you hired to run the team!!!!

charles22
charles22

Bring in Patty Lafontaine to run this franchise.Garth Snow was a terrible goalie and is a horrid GM.Wake up Wang.

After all these years of constant frustration, not to mention the fact that Garth Snow and the owner Charles Wang have absolutely no clue what they are doing. I think it's time to finally give up. Move this franchise, contract it, whatever just get it over with. Obviously they want to kill the remaining fan base. As for myself I'm done.

gleichzahl
gleichzahl

garth seems to think everyone was waiting on a kesler trade to see where he'd end up and then react (he doesn't name kesler but imo that's who he meant).  when no one got kesler, everyone else stayed pat also.

steviel
steviel

We traded top picks, MM, AMAC and Vanek and this team has absolutely zero NHL players on tonights roster to show for it! That has to be hard to do! amazing!

rob
rob

I joked that the Zamboni driver was going to be the next gm you know something I think he should be the next gm could he do any worse?

rob
rob

is garth in Edmonton tonight? is he going to do some damage control on tv? with an interview with Howie or Jiggs


so tell us garth about those deals you made...


"uuuuuummmmmooooooo we acquired a player uuuuuuuuoooooo from Sweden? a kid my scouts like allot? uuuuuuummmmmmm we think in a few years uuuuuummmmoooooo he might be in the nhl? uuuuuooo should be fun! thank you no more questions!

puckznpadz
puckznpadz

Who cares it is the same old blah blah blah blah... you want to provide Islander Fans with insight and a story.  Find out what those legitimate offers were that Snow turned down week ago.  Now to me that is a story that would be worth hangin your hat on.  Find out what that team from Calli was giving bet it blows this crime scene away.

rob
rob

the NY Islanders where once a great organization that won four Stanley Cups and today they've become dog siht they should change their colors to brown and white  the NY Dogshtz that's what they are

shamwow
shamwow

You believe the damage wrought is bad now? Just wait and see.

Snow, with any luck, and a few more incompetent stumbles, has positioned this Franchise to witness the Sabres using the Islanders 2015 1st Round pick to select Connor McDavid...

So let's look at that possible tally sheet: Isles trade Matt Moulson, Thomas Vanek, Connor McDavid, and a high 2nd Round pick, for a fair to middling European prospect, and a probable mid 2nd Round pick...

And Snow yesterday called this, and I'm quoting, "It was a good day."

Is there anything else you need to know, folks?

mrcisback
mrcisback

  Ed Olczyk on NHL live is backing up Garth Snows assessment that Ryan Kesler was the reason that all the trades got backed right up to the deadline. Everybody was waiting to see where Kesler went first. Either way Snow still dropped the ball yesterday. Snow dropped the ball three times in a row now. The mishandling of Nino and his trade, failing to get a goaltender in the off season and yesterday.

mrcisback
mrcisback

                          Snow did mention the defenseman Mayfield from Bridgeport so i guess he's coming up soon. At this point why not.

Mario Gazzaneo
Mario Gazzaneo

Ask him why all those goalies got moved yesterday for picks and we didnt get in on any of them. Gimme a break. Pathetic. It was because a goalie would cost money and draft picks cost you nothing.

TonyM
TonyM

                     Said he might defer this years pick even if it's a top ten until next year when the draft is much deeper. Says he will continue to build through the draft which means our next playoff appearance will be in 2019! The only hope is once the team moves to Bklyn it's value will increase and Wang finally sells! Until then it will be only  more misery for us long suffering Islander fans!

mrcisback
mrcisback

  They just said that Sebastian Collbeg is a bubble prospect either he's going to be a big time scorer or nothing. Sounds like Nillson the player we picked before Zack Parise.

mrcisback
mrcisback

   Did anybody read Snows comments yesterday about the up coming draft. He basically said they now have 8 draft picks in the first 4 rounds and he will be able to make a lot of moves with these picks at the draft. If there's any indication of what he received for Vanek yesterday then I like to know what kind of moves he can make a 1st,2- 2nd's,2-3rd's and 3 -4th rounders. Obviously he's keeping the 2014 1st rounder.

Kenneth Gamm
Kenneth Gamm

its MIlbury time all over


we get a good team and yet have a GM who is clueless


time to change coach and GM

Steve Jones
Steve Jones

Garth Joke. Yep, let's draft and develop....OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. The biggest joke is that Wang thinks by moving the team to Brooklyn, it's going to cure all. Well Mr. Wang think again.

Shannon Falotico
Shannon Falotico

Now we get to see the sabers version of Chara and Spezza for 15 more years...

snostorm
snostorm

The Islanders problem is Wang...not Snow. And Wang only. As stated by Snow himself they where not going to make an offer to sign Moulson after July 1.  Why? 30 goal scoreres, which Moulson did every year he was an Islander dont grow on trees.  Why wouldnt you make him an offer?  Not only do 30 goal scoreres not grow on trees but 30 goal scorers willing to sign with the Islanders are an even rarer breed. The fact of the matter is they werent willing to pay him. so they traded him plus a first rounder to Buffalo for Vanek who they know wasnt gonna sign with them.  They didnt need Vanek...they needed a goalie and D. Better get rebuked by Vanek then look like cheapasses for letting a fan favorite like Moulson walk.


Im not fooled. And there are reports that The islanders would not take on any salary with cap strapped teams in a deal for Vanek.  Thats a disgrace. Lets not forget the trade for Tim Thomas to bring salary up to the floor with out having to pay him.  Now thats a commitment to winning. 


And keeping Nino up when he should have been in juniors for his salary and putting him on a fourth line when he should have been developing into the top six he will most assuredly be. He had a right to be pissed and ask for a trade off this Island of misfit toys. 


The only question now is how long before JT say he wants out?

rickhunter
rickhunter

Persson – Sundstrom – Collberg

the super swede line!

andrewcilento
andrewcilento

@jtbourne “Matt Moulson, when he was an Islander, he wasn’t a player we were looking to bring back on July 1.” that

shamwow
shamwow

Chuck Wang, clueless? Really?

Why do you continue to avoid and obscure the obvious?

Chuck is a billionaire; and billionaires, while often ruthless, are rarely clueless...

The Islanders have always been nothing but a disposable part in a grander scheme; first as leverage in a 77 acre land grab, and now as part of Chuck's sweetheart deal with Barclays...

I think it's well past time you realized the Team, and trivial matters of winning and losing hockey games, is utterly meaningless to Chuck.

ny711ot
ny711ot

@puckznpadz  interestingly on 590 today Snow was asked if this was the best offer he had received to this point...there was a split second pause and in a lower voice Snow said, 'yes'.

He did not sound as if he was being honest.

rob
rob

@puckznpadz dude the guys that write this blog have as much info as you or I do

John Falcone
John Falcone

@shamwow  we wouldn't get the first pick next year, that will be reserved for the Oilers, no matter what place they finish in.  

rob
rob

@mrcisback only 3? don't buy it because that should have made team more desperate to make a move. 


listen Snow is either a moron or he was told to make bad moves-


they over pay for Vanek only to dump him at the deadline? why would you take a huge risk like that? your team is fragile you have missing parts you're prospect pool is OK not great. overall you are a last place team you stink. if you're on the verge of a Stanley Cup you take huge risks-its bs turn off your set don't watch don't care if you can cancel msg and ignore the ny dogshtz 

Brett DiSanto
Brett DiSanto

@mrcisback  I would add the original Vanek trade as 4th. Signing Pierre Marc-Bouchard and Regin as dependable players as 5th.

mrcisback
mrcisback

@Chris R   Hey Chris what did Garth say in the beginning of the NHL live interview about what his return was for Vanek yesterday. I missed the beginning of the interview.

Don22
Don22

@snostorm I still think Snow has some issues.  I liked what he has done with the rebuild and finding some decent young talent, but when he tries to make trades for NHL personnel, he has difficulty.


If in fact it is Wang, which you could be right - then we have bigger issues because that's not going away.  At least not until they move.

rob
rob

@ny711ot @puckznpadz why would you not make a better deal??? you know? MONEY they the ny dogshtz did not want to pick up any salary-meanwhile the ny dogshtz are not even paying Vanek his entire salary


the ny dogshtz are not willing to spend because their owner only cares about his pockets and screw winning ok!!!! so eff this team and be a fan of another team we should be on a quest that the ny dogshtz go out of business 

tag1
tag1

@mrcisback @Chris R he said teams were waiting out what was going to happen with Kesler and it screwed things up.

andrewcilento
andrewcilento

@jtbourne I know JT is a big boy, but he can’t be thrilled they thought so little of his best friend, can they?

tag1
tag1

@Chris R @tag1@mrcisback It's typical I've never seen Hradek do a confrontational interview basically that channel is NHL PR and they are not going to attack NHL manangement.

tag1
tag1

@Chris R @tag1@mrcisback Another easy interview He recouped his picks? the picks he gave up are higher than the picks he got back. Nobody challenges his answers.