GIF: Is This a Distinct Kicking Motion?

The Islanders thought they had today’s game against the Blues won, 4-3, on Thomas Vanek’s overtime power play goal. The refs on the ice called it a goal but when it went to review in at NHL HQ in Toronto, well, they disagreed and the goal was overturned. The ruling was that Vanek used a distinct kicking motion. What do you think?

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Full video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTWQc1GlH3Y




121 comments
Janet Ward
Janet Ward

They really need to change the rule...If the puck goes in the net it should be a goal...Whether you kick it in or not. That would really get rid of this gray area


Bryan Herrmann
Bryan Herrmann

so hard to like capuano when he never stands up for his team, bad call after bad call and all he ever says is "no comment". Your own players are calling out the officiating and you dont even support them. Just another reason for me not to like this mullethead.  

Sportsfan1970
Sportsfan1970

An atrocious call.  There is no doubt if that was Crosby or Ovechkin or a top team (Pitt, Bos, Ana, LA, Chi) that is a goal.  I hope when Vanek gets fined the team backs him up and says something to keep this in the minds of the hockey public.  It has totally been overshadowed by the LA game.

Sam Sam
Sam Sam

Capuano should have pulled his team off the ice and into the locker room after the Vanek goal in OT.  Of course he would have received a suspension and fine but that's what had to be done.  This league is clearly fixed.  It's not bad enough that life is rigged against the little guy but even a freaking hockey game.  Sad, very sad.

mrcisback
mrcisback

  Sydney Crosby could have put that puck on a football tee and kicked it into the net and it would have counted.

Frank Bruton
Frank Bruton

With inconsistent determinations of "kicks" and "high sticks" from Toronto (based on who is at the helm), just make them legal. Tired of flip flops. Also goaltender interference.

Bill Strong
Bill Strong

Vanek's quote was awesome: "If it were Pittsburgh, maybe that would have been a goal."

Mike Maino
Mike Maino

Angling your foot is not a kick. You sir are drunk.

Zbig Soja
Zbig Soja

you guys act like this was game 7, your the 3rd worse team in the league!

Mike Medaglia
Mike Medaglia

if this were pens or rangers.goal would have counted.

Jonathan McNamara
Jonathan McNamara

Typical. NHL has the worst officiating of any of the major sports. Makes it easy for critics of the game to take shots at the league when stuff like this happens.

mrcisback
mrcisback

   One of the worst calls of the year. I gotta give Vanek credit with his remark after the game about how its about who we are and if it was Pittsburg the goal would have counted. Watch him get fined for saying that. What really cost the Islanders this game was 0 for 6 on the power play.

Ryan Sweeney
Ryan Sweeney

@Bryan Herrmann he said no comment to vaneks comments which he should have.


he said the officiating on the ice got the call right, and they did. 

shlo
shlo

He has balls and can afford the fine.

Don22
Don22

Just took a look at your FB page.  Seems to me you are a bitter Rags fan.  It also looks like you are a family man.  You should be ashamed of the things you have written there.  Do you have any friends?

Go watch soccer and leave the real sports to us.

Joey Ferguson
Joey Ferguson

should go and delete this comment like you did with the rest of them.... btw check out zucs goal against the devs... that was a definante kicking motion that was ALLOWED for whatever reason

SeaverBeliever41
SeaverBeliever41

And you root for a team with one championship in the last 73 years.

Joey Ferguson
Joey Ferguson

and we are 8 points out of a spot we have time. and bs calls like this don't help

Pete B.
Pete B.

OMG, angled it in? It his his toe its impossible to angle it in with the tip of your shoe!!!


shlo
shlo

Why don't you try to understand the rule before you comment?

SeaverBeliever41
SeaverBeliever41

No need to look anything up. I lived it.

The islanders finished with the worst record in 1972-73. That earned them the first pick and they picked Potvin.

In 1974 the NHL didn't want the WHA stealing the young players so the amateur draft allowed "underage" players to be drafted. Trottier (the 22nd overall pick) was one of those but there were 4 or 5 other underage players drafted before him.

Bossy was the 15th overall pick. He was considered a defensive liability plus he hadn't shown any real improvement in his last season in juniors so the other teams decided to pass on him.

Now if you wanna talk about the league "fixing" anything to a team try examining the 1994 a Stanley Cup. The Rangers beat the Devils on an illegal goal (tikkanen was in the crease which was illegal at that time). A couple of years later the 2 teams would meet again in the playoffs and the Devils would have 3 goals disallowed for that very infraction. All three either tied the game or gave them the lead. Hmmm.

In the finals there was Pavel Bure being given a first period game misconduct just as Vancouver was coming back in game 2. In the first 6 games of the finals the rangers got the first power play in every game. After game 6 Rangers coach Mike Keenan had the balls to complain that they weren't getting the first 2 power plays in the games. In game 7 the Rangers get the first 3 power plays. What a coincidence!

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

What kind of revisionist history is etched into that thick skull???  Potvin was the first over all pick in 1973 by the worst team in NHL history.  The Islanders earned that pick.  A year later, they took Trottier with the 22nd over all pick in the second round.  And in 1977, Bossyy went at #15, being passed over by Toronto and the Rangers twice each.  So yeah,,, I looked it up and guess what,,, you're out to lunch.  Go away Troll...

Joey Ferguson
Joey Ferguson

so you say its a deflection off the skate which is legal. thanks for the support buddy

shlo
shlo

why don't you decide? first it was a clear kick than it was not,than its a maybe. Maybe Vanek was not there at all.

Ryan Sweeney
Ryan Sweeney

you're a complete moron and know nothing about hockey if you could even attempt to argue a kicking motion there.  and for the record, you are allowed to angle your skates to redirect the puck, which he didnt even do so go away with your ridiculous comments and ignorance to hockey .

jepliberty
jepliberty

Clear as day, but on this day there was a very cloudy weather condition.

shlo
shlo

The call on the ice was a goal. The refs got it right. The Toronto yoyos screwed it up.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@mrcisback

Vanek is only echoing what some of us on this thread have feared, as he has now lived it.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@REDSpointofview

He must be a disgruntled Rangers fan, for his team not picking Bossy, he needs to be pissed at them, not the Isles, and he may be the proverbial red headed step child.

Don22
Don22

@shloLate to the party - who had all of these comments deleted? 

Jason Zimmermann
Jason Zimmermann

 It doesn't matter if you were at that game or in Antarctica during it.  Mere presence doesn't make one any more or less knowledgeable. 

Jason Zimmermann
Jason Zimmermann

@Ryan Sweeney @Don22 @Jason Zimmermann @weeza The prevailing argument on this board that a "Distinct Kicking motion" is a pendulum swing. Parise's non-goal was most certainly not a result of a "pendulum swing" - make up your minds, guys, how would you like to argue this?


The bottom line is that the rule, and how the rule is presented, is flawed. The NHL has to fix this. And the best way to do that is to give some discretion to the refs and their judgment. 

Ryan Sweeney
Ryan Sweeney

@Don22 @Jason Zimmermann @weeza @Ryan Sweeney 


and...

that was WAY more of a kicking motion than vanek's...i mean his skate was going towards the next...in vanek's case, it literally just bounced off his skate with no real movement towards the net.  completely difference. vaneks is wayyy worse. 

Ryan Sweeney
Ryan Sweeney

@Don22 @Jason Zimmermann @weeza @Ryan Sweeney not to mention you say this like its a common occurance.  it happened three years ago.  maybe we benefited but that doesnt take away from the fact that we just got robbed.  this isnt a karma thing. 

weeza
weeza

@Jason Zimmermann @Ryan Sweeney Actually there not... Before if it went off your skate it didn't count now there has to be a distinct kicking motion. Not to mention bad enough where it has to overturn the refs call.. Did you see a distinctive kicking motion I didn't  That was another blown call in Toronto of course.