Hurricanes 3, Islanders 2: Hurricanes Continue Dominance Over the Isles

Christian Arnold, Islanders Point Blank:

UNIONDALE, N.Y. – A bad minute of hockey cost the Islanders two goals in the second period, and ultimately the game.

Goals by Eric Staal and Brent Sutter, 57 seconds apart from each other, helped the Carolina Hurricanes prevail 3-2 over the Islanders. It was the 11th time in their last 14 meetings at Nassau Coliseum that the Hurricanes have beaten the Islanders.

“We always feel like we play pretty well against [the Hurricanes], but we always come out with a loss” Matt Martin said. “I think we just had the mental lapses that end up costing us. And we gotta make sure anytime they score a goal against us it’s hard. It’s not an easy goal.

“We gave them a few gifts tonight and obviously that was the difference.”

The new Metropolitan division rivals started the game with a spirited first period, and it wasn’t until the second that either side found the back of the net.

Andrew MacDonald made a poor turnover behind the his own goal, which allowed Patrick Dwyer to feed Manny Malhotra in the slot and give the Hurricanes a 1-0 lead. The Islanders responded 44 seconds later after Carolina made a turnover in their own end.

John Tavares slipped the puck past Anton Khudobin to even the game at one, and extend his point streak to nine games.

But two defensive miscues in the span of a minute allowed Carolina to jump back in the drivers seat. Eric Staal was left all alone in the slot at 13:21 of the second period and put the Hurricanes up 2-1. Brent Sutter extended the Hurricane lead to two guys by burying a rebound past Evgeni Nabokov.

Vanek found the back of the net in the final minute, with the Islanders on a late game power play, but they could not find the tying goal. The loss snapped the team’s three game winning streak.

While the team’s top line managed to get their names on the score sheet, they also made some key mistakes in the game. Vanek, Tavares and Kyle Okposo were on the for all three Hurricane goals.

A fact that did not sit well with Islander Head Coach Jack Capuano.

“They weren’t very good without the puck and they know that,” Capuano said after the loss. “As I addressed after the game…they made some pretty crucial mistakes without the puck tonight and gave them quite a few chances. I wouldn’t be shocked if 50 or 60 percent of their chances came against that line.”

For his part, Vanek did acknowledge his mistake on the Hurricanes second goal. He thought the play was going to be whistled offsides when Carolina was entering the offensive zone.

“I read it wrong,” he said. “I thought it was offsides by five feet and I should have just played the game instead of thinking it should have been blown down. Again, I let him walk in and he scored. That’s my fault.”

It was a frustrating night for the Islanders, who prior to Saturday had won their last three games against high quality opponents. Capuano felt that not all of his players were on top of their game Saturday night.

“That’s the disappoint thing for me tonight is that we didn’t have all 20 guys going,” Capuano said. “We had some guys going, but we can’t have nights like that. We’re the type of team that everybody has to go.”




73 comments
h2geo
h2geo

Ok, I will be the one to point it out.  Unless Brent Sutter came out of retirement to play for the Canes, it was probably Brett Sutter that scored last night.  


Thanks for giving me something other than the game to focus on though.  Thinking back to the days of Brent Sutter made me smile at least.

Jersey Steve
Jersey Steve

This team will never be anything more than average with Wang/Snow/Capuano at the helm.  I feel bad for some of the players, especially JT.  It must be so frustrating for him.

orange2327
orange2327

I love butch goring but he's gotta stop talking up amac!! What game is this guy watching?? The guy is awful plain n simple!!

truth77
truth77

I am not going to rant because it does no good, but I am going to say something that probably makes a lot of sense to people on the website and not to Isle management.There is no  punishment for laziness and stupidity on this Team.A mac constantly turns the puck over ,never looks back for the enemy when retrieving the puck and passes blindly putting pucks where a 15  year old  high school de man would  not put them.There is a simple solution Coach Capuano, bench him the rest of the game.Next Game too, if  it does not register in his head.If he still cant make the right plays after that Waive him .A Mac has giving a lot of minutes ,sometime a lot is not a good thing. I say alone, He has lost at least 10 games for us this year,either by bad play or turnovers.

orange2327
orange2327

@erika they said moulson was a liability defensively but next to vanek moulson looks like Bob gainey!!!

erika
erika

O.K., is there anyone else totally annoyed at the fact that we never win against the smug, arrogant a**hole kirk friggin Muller, who I credit with the whole "I don't want to play for the Islanders" era? Trading Turgeon, one of the best Islanders during the dark times (still going on), for a player that refused to play for us. Hated him then, hate him now. I hope one day soon we meet in the playoffs and we embarrass the daylights out of him and his ultra suave look!

For the record, I truly enjoyed the small bit of success last week, but this team will not improve until we get a capable coaching staff, a system catered to our strengths, a solid D-man or 2, and goaltending help. 

Also, while I acknowledge the fact that the first line has been better, mostly due to Okposso play, oddly enough, I am not seeing how Vanek is a fit on this team. Tavares is putting up points but he does not look motivated or happy! Sorry, I think Vanek is a lazy-ass player, and while I so wanted to believe all of you who felt" Vanek is so much better defensively", but after watching him stand perfectly still while the Carolina player blew by him to take the lead ( something I have witnessed all to often with him), I don't see it! In my distraught state, I put on the Devs/Sabres game just in time to watch our very own Matt Moulson score!!! Hooray!!!.....Oh wait...we traded him.... ...that's okay, we have the supremely gifted Vanek!

orange2327
orange2327

Its pathetic we fans get a little excited over a mini streak when this team still has way too many flaws on a regular basis!! Yeah the JT KO TV line is out there a lot maybe too much but what choice does crappy have?? Strome looked ordinary last night after some great shifts vs Chicago!! Unless you pair him with real offensive minded players he's gonna be mired in mediocrity!!!

TonyM
TonyM

              Until theres a change in ownership any moves made will be lateral at best. The Nino and Vanek trades  are going rank right up there with the worst of Milbury's trades! The worst case scenario for Islander fans is that the Rags buyout  Richard's and sign Vanek! Snow will wait until the trade deadline to move both Vanek and Amac and windup with third and fourth round picks for them. The organization is minor league from top to bottom and those horrible black unifoms have to go!

Adam Wessinger
Adam Wessinger

God, Capuano.  Stop trying to be a tough guy by making comments about the only thing that gets this team any wins: our top line.  I don't care if they were on the ice for the 3 goals we let up (considering they are on the ice for about 90% of the goals we score, but that is a rant for another time).  Those goals came down to INDIVIDUAL mistakes, not the mistakes of the line in general.  It is not the forwards fault that AMAC just gives up the puck to a guy behind the net.  It is not JT and KO's fault that Vanek decided to stop playing.  It is not the forwards fault that deHaan hit the linesman with his dump in.  But Capuano, being a horrible leader, doesn't have the balls to call out the guys really responsible.  He takes the easy way out, blaming the top guys that everybody looks to, knowing they will have to swallow their pride and be leaders.

isles23
isles23

Idk what Cappy is talking about saying not everyone was going. IMO they played a pretty solid game. Just one bad break with the puck hitting the linesman and two horrible decisions by Amac, one with the puck the other on his positioning. Yes the top line was on for all 3 goals but can you really fault them when its the dman just giving it away? Amac has to take the brunt of the blame for this one.

port
port

The god news with this loss is it's the only way to get Donovan back into the lineup. Capuano once again with his inept coaching would have kept Donovan as a healthy scratch until the islanders lost a game. He is so frickin predictable with what he does.

Michael DiGirolamo
Michael DiGirolamo

BURN those HORRIBLE black jersey's!!!!!!!! Trade A-Mac & Carkner for ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!

Siljaman
Siljaman

Sloppy sloppy and another meltdown by defence (Amac). Maybe Amac is playing to many minutes? Put him in third pairing with Carkner/Donovan and let Strait play with Hickey. Nabby was solid again, couldn't do much against the turnover goals. First lines backchecking must improve, are they turning into divas or what? 

Sorry for bad english. I'm a sorry ass finnish guy who lives in Sweden with a passion for Islanders.

David Schwartz
David Schwartz

Don't worry this is my last Isles game until the Winter classic since they have lost 4 straight in a row with me in attendance.  I will take full blame for this one.

Paul Zuppello
Paul Zuppello

That A-Mac/Hickey pairing is killing me! Would love to package A-Mac and Bailey for a bigger defenseman, preferably with a right handed shot.

cournoyer
cournoyer

Why is Amac still around? This guy can't even clear the zone? Donavan is worse?

jpizzy
jpizzy

Do they ever win in those stupid jerseys? Burn em.

ktier
ktier

How true to form! The linesman had a beautiful assist on Carolina's 3rd goal. (Game Winner) Isles couldn't get the puck deep because one of the linesman's immobile ass stopped the puck from getting into Carolina's zone! It was a beautiful block that resulted in a breakout for the Hurricanes 3rd and eventual game winning goal. Even when the refs aren't screwing us with bad calls the linesman inadvertently are still finding a way!

njersey
njersey

All I hear about with NHL chatter is how defensemen are so wanted and needed !!! It appears we are committed to Donovan, (just recalled and has completely shown that he is above an AHL type of player); There has to be a team out there that would take a chance on Andrew MacDonald. I believe he is a free agent after this season and he has shown that he can gobble up minutes, (I KNOW THOSE MINUTES ARE USUALLY TERRIBLE, but you know what I'm saying). With such a need for defensemen in this league, TRADE THIS GUY ALREADY !!!!  Is it possible for us to trade garbage for something decent for a change, instead of the opposite !!!

dkdk
dkdk

That is truly the common denominator. No need to delve further.

palffy
palffy

@erika You realize Vanek is one of 5 islanders above even in +/-, right? In case you didn't, he's leading the team.  You also realize that Vanek is currently playing better than almost anyone else on the team?  And you also know that Matt Moulson is -9?  Granted it's on a horrible team, but the Islanders have been pretty horrendous most of the season also.  I respect everyone's opinion, but you are clearly biased towards Matt Moulson.  Your response may be "Well, you're biased towards Vanek".  I'm biased towards the player who is statistically better in every single category.  I loved Matt Moulson, and I have noticed Vanek loafing around at times, but I've also seen him make defensive plays that Moulson has never made in his life, and at the end of the day his +/- is there so he must be doing something right.  Don't act like this game was lost because of Vaneks defensive play, or lack thereof.  If you can't see or accept that TV is a far superior player than MM then I'm very sorry.  If you don't believe me then just compare their stats.

mrcisback
mrcisback

@erika   Your right Erika about Vanek. People on this web site talk about Matt Moulson being one dimensional. I think Vanek is one dimensional. He doesn't play defense. For a 6ft 3 220lb  man he plays 5ft 8. He never fights.You never see him check someone into the boards or take them out of the play and he never goes down to block a shot. To me that sounds pretty one dimensional. If Vanek was in the top 10 in the league in scoring then i would be ok with it but he's not. All i know is Matt Moulson would take a beating in front of the net to score goals and he actually wanted to be here unlike Vanek. 

mrcisback
mrcisback

@orange2327  Sounds a lot like the Nino Niederreiter situation when he was on the Islanders playing with 4th line players. I said it all along if the Islanders were going to bring up Strome he must play on the the 1st or 2nd lines. Let him play on the 2nd line with Frans Nielsen and Michael Grabner. But playing him on the 3rd line with Nelson and McDonald is just stupid. Strome is out of Nelsons league right now.

camb33
camb33

@TonyM don't fool yourself, Snow will wait till the end of the season and lose Vanek for nothing to Free agency. Snow is a bafoon and he will think we are in the playoff race till the final game of the year, thus holdng onto vanek

dzruggie
dzruggie

@Adam Wessinger On the specific goals you mention you are correct however clearly the line was not interested in playing in their zone.  

red2
red2

@port 

Capuano is asking his top line to play too many minutes.  He is asking three of his defensemen to play too many minutes.  Okposo, Vanek and Tavares averaged almost 23 minutes.  When Capuano stood before the microphones after the game and admonished them for failing to prevent the Hurricanes goals, he failed to mention the fact that he was the one who had them on the ice for all that time, sufficient time to tire them out.  Tired players make mistakes, and poor coaches should be fired...  

red2
red2

@Siljaman 

Your English is sufficient to be understandable, a far cry from some here who insist on using U and R as words and then mangle the rest of their vocabulary into an indistinguishable mess.  I got your point, and you are right.  Capuano has MacDonald averaging about 25 minutes a game.  That's far and away too much time for a defenseman who is nothing more than average...

dzruggie
dzruggie

Scott Mayfield is already under contract - 6-4 shoots right.

orange2327
orange2327

You couldn't get very much for either or both!! But I agree!! I might actually waive baileyno one will pick him up with that contract!!

dzruggie
dzruggie

@rmreturns Agree definitely a let down in the intensity from the previous two games.  The problem was having 3 defensive meltdowns.  Bad line change and luck on de Hanns dump in.  Amac just cannot get beat like that - it was pee-wee hockey type meltdown and an overall lack of hustle on D overall.  Anyway Dallas is next and will be a hard game Monday.

wally1616
wally1616

@rmreturns 

I'm always unhappy with Amac. He is the MOST over rated DMan in the NHL. Eating minutes and making many so many mistakes. The Isles would be better off trading him and the fly weight #14.   

doc942
doc942

They are the ugliest jersey's in the league ... It's hard to imagine that in a sales or marketing meeting where you bring professionals together that do "jersey" design for a living, that those "horribles" are what everyone agreed would be a "good" idea. Give me an all solid blue with retro style writing... Anything but black, grey, white, orange and blue.

dzruggie
dzruggie

@ktier A bad break but they are part of the game and are in play.  They are always at the blue line so a tough one for sure.  In the end de Hann should have covered the trailing player versus trying to catch the shooter on the play.  

David Schwartz
David Schwartz

@njersey Not to hate on your rant because I agree with you that we should trade Amac while we can since he is obviously not apart of the long term future and he is thought of highly throughout the league due to the minutes he plays and how many shots he blocks(its all he is good for), but I just want to know what trades you are referring to where we give up good players to garbage?  If you say Vanek i'll say please don't be ignorant otherwise if its other trades I am forgetting about like (Loungo, Chara, Bertuzzi then hell yes I agree with you but blame different management and ownership for those mishaps)

Jersey Steve
Jersey Steve

@dkdk Exactly....bitching about anything else is moot.  It all stems from those three.

dzruggie
dzruggie

@gordlane @TonyM That was well said????  It was nearly hysterical and completely a loser rant.  It is getting really tiresome reading these posts after each loss where there is no insight - nothing.

4xdynasty
4xdynasty

I get what you're saying regarding their toi, but keep in mind that all 3 goals were scored BEFORE the 3rd period. Being tired wasnt the issue

Paul Zuppello
Paul Zuppello

@orange2327 I know, but a guy can dream.  Toronto was shopping Gardiner earlier, maybe that could still work.

dkdk
dkdk

Very true .... Talk about AMac, the other d, suspect goalies, the "pipeline of talent" is all largely bunk because of the triumverent above.

red2
red2

@dkdk 

I agree completely about Vanek, and that's on Snow to know if he is going to sign him.  Any hesitation, and he HAS to be traded.  As far as Bailey is concerned,,, I hate to be the harbinger but,,, if Vanek goes, guess who's getting that spot next t Tavares for the rest of this year...

dkdk
dkdk

Hey red, my biggest fear is what I am sure most people feel, we will hold onto vanek and he will leave. If he isn't extended soon you have to trade him. People can debate the merits of the trade, but what can't be debated is the cost which was substantial. If he isn't CLEARLY staying he has to be traded. And maybe you could put a rider on the deal, you want vanek you have to take Bailey too.

red2
red2

@gordlane @red2 

I understand.  It's hard to eat and type at the same time, one hand holding food as it were.  And Viznovsky's injury just could be the end.  Only time will tell...

red2
red2

@dkdk 

It truly does appear that Snow jumped too quickly into the trade market by getting Vanek when he did.  Perhaps there is something rotten in Denmark that isn't Frans Nielsen or Peter Regin,,, something we aren't tuned into.   

gordlane
gordlane

@red2---My bad Red, as I missed adding in a paragraph, trying to eat and type.


My point was/is that with only Carkner making more than a million behind Hammer as current active players.


It's tough for this defense corp. to go on any consistent run, getting out of this hole.


Viz is signed thru next year, but this injury with no update, is not good looking good for this year. He is getting up in age, and could be a factor.


Regardless, good pick up on my error.



dkdk
dkdk

@red .... One caveat if I may, we have to factor in Moulson because if we didn't do the deal and the season slipped away and we knew we weren't resigning him we could have traded him. So it isn't just the loss of the 1 and 2 it is also the loss of what he would have brought back.

So to me the deal becomes whatever we wind up getting for Vanek, providing we trade him, which my guess is les than what we traded to get him PLUS whatever the Sabres get for Moulson. There will be a fairly strong market for Moulson I am assuming.

red2
red2

@dzruggie @gordlane @TonyM 

It's also not quite true,,, Hamonic makes $3.85 million and Visnovsky still occupies a roster spot at $4.75 million and is signed through 2015.  Hickey is the bargain pick up at $675K and leads me to this point,,, I have to get a small chuckle out of those that believe the Nino trade to be an all time worst.  If Nino at #5 over all excels so be it, that was a chance Snow took, just like the chance he took when he grabbed Hickey, a #4 over all.  That's the thing with draft picks.  You never can tell, and anointing Nino as the next great power forward is a stretch until he starts to prove it night in and night out... 

The Vanek deal, on the other hand, might prove a mistake on Snow's part.  He will have to determine the odds of signing him and then parlay that against what he can get in return.  The loss of Moulson is not the point, rather it's the loss of a 1st and 2nd round pick... 

red2
red2

@4xdynasty 

If they are playing over 22 minutes a night, some of those shifts have to be longer than their stamina is capable of sustaining...