Islanders 1, Capitals 0 — Shutout Snaps Losing Streak

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Kevin Schultz

Andrew MacDonald and Thomas Vanek could be on their way out of Long Island, but for right now they’re still helping the Islanders on the ice. 

Tonight in Washington the Islanders won with a single goal — the first time they’ve done that this season — and it came off of Andrew MacDonald’s stick. AMac had a seeing-eye shot from the point get through Colin McDonald, a Caps defender and goalie Michal Neuvirth. And it would be all the Islanders needed to down the high-scoring Caps on their home ice. 

For Vanek, he didn’t find the scoresheet, but still registered three shots, a breakaway and some nice setups for his teammates.

Tonight’s win moves the Islanders to 10 back in the Eastern playoff race, still a mountain to climb. That means the Isles are likely to be sellers and the much talked about Vanek and less talked about but valuable MacDonald could easily be in different color jerseys in the coming weeks. For now, they helped the Islanders secure two points.

Discipline for Martin?

Late in the second, Matt Martin took a boarding penalty that was talked up as dangerous by the NBCSN crew but, I’m not so sure. Here is it courtesy of Japers Rink:

At full speed — and maybe a bit accelerated — it doesn’t look great as Orlov’s head goes towards the boards. I’m just not sure it’s a suspendable hit. It’s not particularly egregious and, well, Martin almost goes head first into the boards too. It seems more an awkward collision than anything else. Maybe I’m being lenient.

And there was another somewhat controversial play at the very end of the period. Thomas Vanek was clear in on goal on a breakaway and Connor Carrick, who was chasing him, took a holding call on what probably should have been a penalty shot.

The Islanders did get their penalty shot, though. After MacDonald scored in the third to give them the lead, Michael Grabner had a clear breakaway and was disrupted from getting off a good chance. He’d be awarded a penalty shot and couldn’t convert. Which leads me to another point, Caps netminder Michal Neuvirth had quite a good game. Neuvirth made some solid stops on Thomas Vanek as well as the aforementioned Grabner.  Most impressive was going post-to-post when Vanek cross-iced a pass to Kyle Okposo. Neuvirth stretched his left pad across and stoned Okposo on the rush.

On the other end of the ice, Evgeni Nabokov played well although didn’t seem to be tested quite as much as Neuvirth. By the time the Capitals went on the powerplay with about three minutes to go, Nabokov had faced only 20 shots. To his credit he stopped them all, but also credit to the Isles defenders for helping to allow so few.

Next up for the Islanders are two home games before the Olympic Break; Calgary on Thursday and Colorado on Saturday.




294 comments
gleichzahl
gleichzahl

anyway, islanders happened to be on tv the other night, they happened to win 1-0 (how rare!) and amac happened to score the goal.  so, the next day a couple of analysts who see the islanders a handful of times at best, make an amac speech.  it's pbl mostly a product of specific circumstance.

wylie
wylie

Its about freakin time somebody helped the fans cause.How about Newsday writing an article critical of Isles management.No--They write how good the penalty kill has been lately.Staple is totally useless.In regards to Vanek,the fact that he hasn't been moved already tells you the offers have been sub-par.Wang must be furious that Vanek dared not to accept his offer.That usually means banishment from the organization.The Isles knew other teams were not rolling over to sign Vanek after prelim.discussions and started to panic and offered Vanek a 7 year contract.IMO he's not worth the risk and money for 7 years.Other teams management teams don't like Wang or Snow so be realistic when it comes to the value we obtain dumping Vanek.It really is pathetic that Tavares has to waste some great years with this less than committed organization.

David Rosenthal
David Rosenthal

So now NHL tonight is going after Garth Snow for the same reasons many of us have,...and the kool aiders STILL cant see the forest through the trees....Snow messed up trying to get Schneider, messed up the Vanek situation, as I have said before he is a horrible negotiator and salesman....and I have also said before pretty soon JT will demand a trade to get off this sinking ship...it will be like Pat LaFontaine

camb33
camb33

Oh boy, NHL Tonight is ripping the Isles Management?!....RM is really gonna have his hands full now

Steve J. Gonzalez
Steve J. Gonzalez

Just saw NHL Tonight this morning and saw the three commentators rip into the NY Islanders management team over the Vanek situation. They also mentioned how much will Tavares take before asking for a trade. I have told Islanders management they better make some major offseason moves like a younger goalie and stronger defense or they're going to have problems drawing ticketholders to Brooklyn.  

tpjm
tpjm

NHL Tonight rips NYI. As has been talked about here now it’s gone national TV wise. They were discussing howNYIhas to get Tavares some help soon and stop wasting his prime or he might say he’s had enough and leave before Brooklyn. They mentioned howNYIdidn’t want to pay for Schneider or a non 38 year old goalie, about how they should keep Amac but probably won’t, about Vanek leaving andNYIwasting time.

Between losing both games to NYR especially the outdoor game, being basically eliminated from the playoffs and Venek turning down the offer and hearing this stinks.  

4xdynasty
4xdynasty

It would be wild to see all contracts last only one year maximum. 900 some odd ufas every year. Gms would be wildly busy. Roster turnover immense and nobody could coast after signing one of these often bought-out, ill - conceived 7+year contracts.

ejej
ejej

@David Rosenthal - Careful David, they don't like to be called "koolaiders", more "pro-Wangers". 


Just think if you are a UFA or a player negotiating with Snow: if the low-grogaly voice and creepy eye stare is not enough to make you run, then comes in Chuck to with his verbal and open check book to wrap up the deal....CAP floor friendly of course.




Vicp73
Vicp73

@camb33  You know what the Pro-Snow people will say, What do those guys on the NHL tonight Know about hockey. 

ejej
ejej

@camb33 - LOL Camb! He will have to kick up the "future looks bright" into high gear...



gleichzahl
gleichzahl

@tpjm  i think most analysts aren't all that familiar with the islanders.  after all, there's 30 teams.  that said, imo amac gets some abuse here that he doesn't deserve.  not that he's a stud, but in a rebuild he's the type of player i would keep.  it doesn't make sense to criticize the islanders for starting over and over, and then want to toss out amac..

Harry (PJP)
Harry (PJP)

@tpjm  If the team keeps MacDonald they are out of their bloody minds

mrcisback
mrcisback

@orange2327    I made a similar comment earlier and you know if Vanek does go Sochi he will get hurt. Its just the luck the Islanders have. I got a good feeling Thomas Vanek will be an ex Islander by 3PM Friday.

doc942
doc942

I wouldn't be surprised if Garth decides not to trade Vanek. Then signs him to that 8 year 60 million dollar contract. Vanek "never" said he doesn't want to be here... but he did say he wants to be a free agaent. There's a difference. Maybe he walks. But he never said he's leaving. Those are the facts.

You can interpret those facts any way that you want and have the opinion that he's walking.

tag1
tag1

Maybe teams won't make the deal now for that same exact reason

dkdk
dkdk

Imagine how many reasoners, Rolstons, carkners, pandolfos, bouchards, and Regins would could land then! Lol

Vicp73
Vicp73

@ejej @David Rosenthal  Morning ejej, How long have we been talking about this for now lol, criticism of Snow and he's buddies is old news,  I just wonder what the offer was for Schneider? If the cost was 9th overall pick for a premier goalie,  what could Garth have possibly offered for it to be rejected. Thomas Hickey for Cory Schneider? lol

David Rosenthal
David Rosenthal

@ejej @David RosenthalWell my guess is they would prefer kool aiders to enablers of this failed GM/ownership....hell even when Wang gave snow some $$$ look what he did with it....no goalie, no quality dmen...but he did shell $$ out to Bailey Regin Bouchard Martinek Clutterbuck Carkner Strait Hickey and way overpaid for Hamonic...thats alot of $$$ pissed away right there

ejej
ejej

@Chris R - Chris, that sounded to good... Go F   C K YOURSELF WANG!!!

isles23
isles23

Bottom line, we all know what Amac is on a cup contending team. A number 4/5 dman. He wants 5 mil a year, do you pay 5 mil for what could/should be your 4th or 5th best defender? As isles fans we've seen more of him than anyone else, we know the reason he leads the league in blocked shots is cause he loses the puck a lot in his own zone and has to make many last second recoveries and that he plays with zero physicality. Let someone else make the mistake of over paying him and give us assets as well. And one of these analysts wouldn't happen to have been Mike Milbury would it? Cause I care so much about his opinion.

shlo
shlo

@gleichzahl  I agree with you about the so called analysts.

They are paid to shoot their mouth off . It's like kicking a person while he is down.

I am not the greatest fan of Snow primarily because he still has Cappy &co. as coaches. 

Taking a risk to improve a team?  we heard it all before.

I think they read some talking points from who knows where and repeat them over and over.

Who does not know about the need to get Tavares help? what was the Vanek deal all about?

Snow blew it with the Goalie. Vis and Hamonic got hurt.

It took the team down. Now, if Snow does not address the goalie situation in the summer, he should be GONE.

Don22
Don22

@Jeff Roland Because some people like to make believe they know what is happening on the inside.

tpjm
tpjm

@WillyMaysHayes @tpjm  

According to them and others there's plenty of interest in Amac from other teams proving NYI wrong and just not wanting to pay. If he was used properly as a number 3 or 4 D which he is instead of a number 1 or 2 on NYI (and 2nd PP unit not first) because of injury and not overused because Garth got bupkis on D over the summer he’d be fine. Leads in blocked shots. They never got the Amac hate.  They're not entirely wrong.

gleichzahl
gleichzahl

@doc942  well, i'll leave you to 'interpret' that he still might sign here.  tbh, i'm interpreting that he's gone.  and imo he was gone from day one.

Vicp73
Vicp73

@Chris R @ejej @Vicp73  Chris the  hockey media here in Toronto is F'N ruthless, You think Garth and Charles would be able to run and hide without answering the tough questions?? Haha Wang would have fled the country 

ejej
ejej

@Vicp73- Morning Vic, barely, only a few until high noon. With a watered down version of IPB and what Botta use to run, along with ONE rouge reporter in Staple, Wang has put his faithful GM in a no lose situation.


As long as Snow stays loyal to Chuck and does what he has over 8 years, there is Zero pressure and accountability. None from the media (what media) and certainly none from Chuckwang. 


Can you imagine if this crap was going on in a Canadian market or any OTHER market for that matter???


Wang and his kid would of been run out of town years ago, and Snow would of been hanging from the NEW owners box, IF we had media. So much power these days in the press with so many forms of instant communication, yet it feels like we are still in pre-FAX days here. 

ejej
ejej

@David Rosenthal- At least the CORSI numbers should be thru the roof! Speaking of the ever popular Corsi, we are way over due for ANOTHER thread....

David Rosenthal
David Rosenthal

@ejej Bailey at 3.5 mil/yr...couldve gotten us something ALOT better proven nhl player

ejej
ejej

@David Rosenthal- For me, the Bailey move is just the definition of this organization under the dynamic duo.


Agreed on all counts: Re-sign of Bailey to a ridiculous deal, the Vanek move that looks to be worse, and the lack of addressing needed areas. Man, we sound redundant, but you really could not make this stuff up outside of this organization if you tried...

isles23
isles23

@gleichzahl, agreed but would also agree that one of the reasons we get pinned in our own zone, especially with him on the ice, is because he gives away the puck way too much. Look I'm not in the camp that thinks he is awful but what I know is he is not worth 5 mil a year.

Don22
Don22

@isles23 Milbury and Roenick. Two of the best hockey minds out there.......

gleichzahl
gleichzahl

@isles23  biggest problem with amac is that when the team is bottled up in its own end he looks awful.  never separates an opponent from the puck.  and during islanders' losing streaks, we see that every night.  on a good team, that doesn't get pinned in, his liability would be less noticeable.  btw, wisniewski putting up a bunch of assists in columbus.

shlo
shlo

@Chris R @David Rosenthal@gleichzahl

That's a good question. We don't know what's the deal in Brooklyn. It looks like they are taking some operational control and giving Wang millions. The powers in Brooklyn have more sports sense than Wang and just may force his hand.

David Rosenthal
David Rosenthal

@shlo @gleichzahlIf Snow does not address x, y, z this summer he should be GONE....hmmm thats what everyone said last offseason, and the year before that and the year before that, how many mulligans does this guy get geez

dkdk
dkdk

And along those lines, Nino's bogus ELA bonuses served a nice one year purpose didn't they Tag?

tag1
tag1

At least he played some games for us not like Tim Thomas

dkdk
dkdk

He came here for 40 games to pad his numbers in a contract push. I am sure he knows it is easier to get points with JT than Ott.

Don22
Don22

@gleichzahl @doc942We will never truly know the answer to that.  As much as I want to see him sign here, at this point hopefully we can get a good return and move on.  Regardless of what happens, the team needs to start adding players to this team before the move to Brooklyn.  Say what we want about Wang and Garth, they are smart enough to know they can't bring a losing team there and expect the fans to just show up.  It will lose it's luster after a while.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@Don22 @tag1

Sounds to me like a conundrum, and Snow is so stupid he thinks he can buy conundrums in a drugstore.

Don22
Don22

@tag1 Good point.  But you can also say that - if they think Vanek can be their missing piece do they want to risk someone else getting him?  Or even worse, one of their rivals?

tag1
tag1

And if you're a GM and you were interested in a player that was going to the Olympics would you get him before the Olympics and risk having him get hurt or wait for after the Olympics to make the trade?

dkdk
dkdk

Yet they tripped over themselves to trade a 20 year old with no leverage for a 3rd liner

dkdk
dkdk

Hey orange if I typed them all out I would have carpal tunnel. I am sure a few had good Corsi though