USATSI_7877095_110579513_lowres

Islanders may make Josh Bailey available via trade

According to general managers around the NHL, the Islanders may make forward Josh Bailey available via trade (Dreger, June 24).

While Bailey may technically be available, it would “take a lot” to get him.

Bailey, 24, was drafted with the ninth overall pick in 2008 and is under contract through the 2017-18 season.

Bailey had eight goals and 30 assists in 77 games last season for the Islanders.

In 406 games played since starting his career in 2008-09, Bailey has scored 66 goals while tallying 111 assists.




166 comments
jimmydev
jimmydev

Please get rid of this miniature waste of a draft pick. I thought the 2008 draft was supposed to be the one to make them great again? Hamonic and Martin do not make it great but at least they got them-Hopefully this year we will not waste two high draft picks on small people like they did with Trevino and Ness in 2008 

ivo
ivo

Kings sign forward Gaborik to seven-year contract!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thomas Hahn
Thomas Hahn

I'd put bailey in a package with the 5th pick and matt donovan and I offer it to winnipeg for either evander kane or byfuglien.

Jim Miller
Jim Miller

If the Islanders could get a bag of practice pucks, they'd be way ahead.

Sean Croft
Sean Croft

"Take a lot to get him"? He's trash, he's a bust. I'd take Scott LaChance's jock strap for this kid. Bailey glides around the ice and hardly takes a shot. We should clear the team of his overpaid salary and replace him with someone better for equal or slightly more money.

sparkey
sparkey

As soon as the Isles make the overdue improvements  to their defense, you`ll also see improvements with Bailey and other forwards. Having a poor defense just kills you and defensively they sucked.  Al Arbour always said " You can never have enough defensman and good defense creates offense ".  If these prospects turn out the way they just might and they can also make some decent moves,  You`ll see. believe me.   I think Bailey is better then he thinks he is.

kevinpt
kevinpt

I know 99% of you will disagree with me, but I'm still not ready to completely give up on Josh Bailey. Besides, unless he's thrown in another deal, Snow isn't going to get much of a return for him singlehandedly with his contract and his value not being the highest right now. Give him another year, maybe put him with different line mates and see if he can breakout (I never understood why the Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen line wasn't reunited last season when they played so well together the season before). Age-wise, this was the same year KO broke out when everyone gave up on him the season before, so it's not unrealistic Bailey can do the same thing. Regardless, he can still be a solid third line player with .5 pts/game and defensively responsible. I know for where he was picked and his contract that's not what everyone was expecting, but he can still contribute.

Sheamus P Hunt
Sheamus P Hunt

Lets trade him and a high level draft pick for a player who refuses to play for us and a lower draft pick. Then trade that player for a hockey stick and puck...Snow must go, he is a schmuck.

Charlie Messing
Charlie Messing

The islanders should trade him for the rights to Bobby Orr

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

If Evander Kane is really on the outs in Winnipeg, and the Jets also want to move Byfuglien, that #5 with Bailey and some more is a start...

fourcups
fourcups

Only way to move Bailey is in a package with their #1 and a young D-Man. Then with what you get back, you take the other team's underachiever. Could be wrong but like most of you guys I've given up on Bailey.

Wingers gor JT. Three obvious ones come to mind: Moulson, Vanek and Parenteau. Isles have had all three. Moulson is on trcord saying he won't play for Isles or LA. Snow on record saying he doesn't want Moulson. Vanek can be had for less than he turned down a few months ago. BUT do you still want him after seeing him in the play-offs? I don't. That leaves PA. Would take a trade. Something like Bailey & a you d-man might be enough. Outside of getting a good young fwd for JT, PA might be the best fit and cost the least. Problem: Getting him is a statement that Snow & more important Wang were wrong in letting him go. GMs rarely admit mistakes...WANG NEVER DOES. 

jimmydev
jimmydev

@Jim Miller agreed completely a wimp and a waste who could not put the puck in the ocean if he stood on the edge of a pier-not original but appropriate-they should trade the scouts who drafted him!

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

this was so clever. probably the most original post ive seen on this blog. 

mrcisback
mrcisback

 Wayne 90% of Islander fans wanted Filatov with that 2008 5th overall pick including myself. Filatov was a total bust so it could have been worse.

jmoney93
jmoney93

@REDSpointofview

I was saying that the other day about Kane and Buf, but the Jets will want more than just Bailey and the #5 , the isles would probably have ti throw in Lee and Donovan or another d prospect... It would be expensive to bring Kane and Buff in, but they would take care of the isles glaring needs

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@fourcups

The other problem that you did not address is that PA Parenteau is a right wing,,, same as Okposo...  Tavares needs a left wing and I have been on here lobbying for Dustin Penner.  He can be had via free agency and Snow can then save that #5 for a deal...

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@orange2327 it doesnt get you anywhere close to either player.  they may actually value byfuglein more than kane. 

Steven Cook
Steven Cook

Well said.  The pick there should have been Eberle instead of Bailey.  But 20 other teams also passed on Eberle so enough of this mistake nonsense. 

Logan Monstuart
Logan Monstuart

@Jason Zimmermann @sparkey Isles couldn't figure out what to do with Sean Bergenheim, another first-rounder. Guy obviously had some skills, and lots of speed, but somehow the Isles couldn't figure out how to use him effectively. Hell, even the Rags found a way to make Gene Carr efficient.


That's why the Red Wings are such a good organization: they are able to identify a player's strengths, draft him, and improve on that.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@Jason Zimmermann @sparkey 

Perhaps Bailey is smarter then we give him credit for, he can see this is a losing organization and he has lost most of his ambition playing for them and as for his John Hancock on a new contract, well maybe he figures he may as well take it, it might be the best offer he will get from any team.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@Jeff Roland he hasnt lived up to it but it is by no means strapping the islanders down like a larger long term contract.  not everyone on here does their research on their own, they just hear something someone says on this blog and tries to use it as fact.  that contract is not nearly as bad as people like to make it seem.  someone actually suggested buying him out. soo dumb. 

kevinpt
kevinpt

@Jeff Roland

Yes, I saw that, which is why I don't think he'll be traded. And I never said his contract was bad, but it will certainly factor into how many teams will be willing to trade for him. I actually think the contract isn't bad at all given the fact that the Isles have plenty of cap space to use.

Isleguy27
Isleguy27

What do you guys see in Byfuglien that intrigues you so much?

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@jmoney93 @REDSpointofview

Certainly up front but,,, if Viznovsky is concussed severely enough to limit his play next year, they still need a power play point defenseman...  That's where Arthur Staple was going the other day with his #5 to Toronto for Cody Franson...

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@wangbegone

March 18, 2014 in an interview with Katie Strang for ESPN...

“It’s been said that I wasn’t in the future plans, so I don’t think that will quickly change,” Moulson said.  On the trade to Buffalo,,, “It definitely kind of caught me off guard,” Moulson said.  “At the time, I thought I’d be here for the rest of my career. We never had discussions about any future plans or anything."  

Based on just those comments he made after the trade, it seems Moulson is convinced that Garth Snow did not want him back.  I don't think anything has changed since then...  

willymayshays
willymayshays

@REDSpointofview @fourcups 


I want a RW for the second line, move Nelson or Lee, who both prefer the LW to RW.  splitting up the kids is a good Idea, BUT I like the Penner idea too.  He's exactly the kind of guy I want.  


The more I think about it, the more I like your idea.  Penner might just be the perfect fit, AND if we have to put all the young players Lee/Strome/Nelson on one line, so be it, at least they've played together already and have some chemistry.



cginsc
cginsc

I like Penner too. Guy is hard to move if you let him park in front of the net. I like Jussi Jokinen too. He's awesome in the SO just like Nielsen. Good 1,2 punch in the extra innings...

shlo
shlo

Buff did nothing since he won the cup in chicago. He is slow and out of shape. I don't share the enthusiasm, but he is a monster.

mrcisback
mrcisback

@Isleguy27 Good call Isles guy. I have no interest in Byfuglien at all. Kane yes Bufuglien no. 

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@willymayshays @REDSpointofview @fourcups

I am happy to have you climb aboard my band wagon...  I have been asking for Penner,,, hoping Snow reads this blog.  He's huge and has two cups on his resume.  That alone says leadership on this team...

Should Snow go after Penner, that leaves the #5 for a trade and we still might need some blue line help.  I am not certain that Viznovsky will be back and that leaves a huge hole on the power play point.  Maybe that's why Arthur Staple was talking about the #5 to Toronto for Cody Franson...

icegirldad
icegirldad

Devin setoguchi fits the profile. Younger, quicker and maybe less expensive. Think he would be a good fit with JT.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@orange2327 i hear ya. i dont see how they could value byfuglian more but ive read about how much they love him as a big bodied forward.  but kane obviously has more value on the open market.

Don22
Don22

@slapshot18_rs @Steven Cook @mrcisback  Ask the Ottawa Senators about Alexander Diagle in 1993.  One of the biggest mistakes ever.  Take a look at some of the guys drafted after him.  


Point being, draft mistakes happen all of the time.  The fact that Bailey isn't living up to his #9 status doesn't make him a mistake/bust.  And once again we have to remind ourselves - he is 24 years old.  Will he ever put it all together?  Who knows.  But bust?  Nah.  

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@jmoney93 @REDSpointofview

Byfuglien is just plain HUGE anywhere he goes on the ice.  He would make a nice second line right wing for Strome, adding a little physicality to protect the kid, too...

REDSpointofview
REDSpointofview

@jepliberty @willymayshays @REDSpointofview @fourcups

I believe it was only the first salvo fired when Nabokov turned down Snow's offer.  He has an opportunity to see if there is someone out there willing to pay him more, and who can blame him for taking that opportunity???  We don't know what Snow offered, just that Nabokov said "NO".  When the dust starts to settle and training camp nears, I think Nabokov would be willing to sign here.  Moving is not a pleasant experience and Nabokov is on record as stating he likes it here.  There are a lot of second tier goalies in the UFA pool that Snow can approach but, I think Nabokov eventually returns as Halak's back up...

http://capgeek.com/ufa-finder/?stats_type=standard&position_id=G

Isleguy27
Isleguy27

No damn way! He didn't do squat in Winnipeg and doesn't deserve to play with a guy like JT.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@orange2327 actually, hes been playing wing - because of how slow he is on defense.  hes impossible to move off the puck as a forward.  his versatility would give the islanders options though and he is absolutely huge.  

Isleguy27
Isleguy27

You are correct slapshot, once Maurice took over in Winnipeg, they moved him up front. He is not responsible defensively as a defence man as he is caught out of position frequently. He's big alright…but he rarely plays a physical game and tires easily. My preference would be for the Isles to stay clear of the big behemoth.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@orange2327 which is shocking considering hes a way more successful player as a forward.  he looks very uncomfortable as a dman and cant keep up with the speed, but is a beast net front presence 

Steven Cook
Steven Cook

Rarely plays a physical game?  People really need to have a clue before they comment.

cginsc
cginsc

I think Buff would be fine as a winger playing point on the PP. He is not so great defensively, for sure. But wouldn't say he is not physical. Only 11 defenseman registered over 200 hits last year out of the 300 that laced up for a game. By contrast, deHaan was the only Islander dman to crack 100 with 114. Hamonic had 93. Hickey had 72. AMac had 69 all year. Donovan had 68. Strait had 65. Carkner had 58. Granted all had varied TOI and GP, but none of them would come close to Buff over the season. Or the 50+ points he would get.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@Isleguy27 i agree, hes not someone i necessarily desire, but kane is. and if requiring kane meant we got a 6'5 265lb forward/defenseman that can put in 50 points, ill take it.  

Isleguy27
Isleguy27

I watch Byfuglien most of the season on tv and live a few times a year and if you had the opportunity to listen to local sport talk shows in Manitoba you would hear the same thing. I've got a clue, and he rarely plays a physical game for a man of his stature.