Lubomir Visnovsky Could Be Out Until After the Olympics

Kevin Schultz, Islanders Point Blank:

The Islanders sorely miss veteran defender Lubomir Visnovsky. Last year, Visnovsky was signed seemingly to take the place of Mark Streit as a top-four defender and point man on the team’s power play. But that hasn’t gone according to plan.

The Slovakian defender hasn’t been seen on the ice since he suffered a concussion against the Hurricanes on October 19th of this season, playing in only eight games. To this point, Visnovsky has still not been cleared for on-ice workouts.

In today’s Newsday, Arthur Staple reports that while there has been little progress on Visnovsky, his camp hasn’t discussed shutting things down for the season. Staple notes that while Visnovsky could resume skating soon, the timetable for a return to game action is anything but:

Visnovsky may take another baseline neurological exam next week, according to a source; if he passes that, he could resume skating soon after.

Best-case scenario: He returns to play a game or two before the Olympic break. Next-best case: He’s back right after the break. Beyond that, it’s not a scenario the Islanders want to envision.

The best case scenario for Visnovsky is still a month away and the worst case, well, it’s anyone’s guess how for away the worst case scenario takes it.

101 comments
Zach14
Zach14

This is BS. Let him play!

orange2327
orange2327

@don22-you are delusional! As long as Wang /snow/Cappy are in charge nothing will change!! This talk of great prospects in our system is bunk!! If that were the case we'd be a far better team today than we are!!!

dimaio34
dimaio34

And nothing against cappy. But we need a horse back there. Brent sutter would be ideal. Only thing is he wouldn't put up with wang

dimaio34
dimaio34

Now after this year they need to add a goalie. Looking at Elliot from stlouis also I really like reimer from the leafs. I still want Poulin as back up he's capable. But after saying this we Really missed our window with Schneider. That is a huge trade for the devils. We need a GM like Lou

dimaio34
dimaio34

Play Amac 18 min not 30 hes fried and we r not even at game 50. Never mind the grind if a first round series. If he plays less he will be better. But they have to add a veteran on defence. They will never last a first round series

dimaio34
dimaio34

Hey what do you think if adding Campbell?

dimaio34
dimaio34

Hey orange 2327. I still am looking at it like they can. Just looking forward that's all. Anything can happen

dimaio34
dimaio34

What's going on with anders lee? He's a keeper but not sure if he fits right now. But he should get a long look next year. He's a awesome player. Just hope they give him a chance

dimaio34
dimaio34

I would love to add abdelkader. All purpose and difference maker. Guys like this can change a series. Did anyone see how reinhart played in the juniors. He was awesome played a controlled game. He's should be on the team next year

dimaio34
dimaio34

Here's who I take into the playoffs!!

Tavares VANEK okposo

Neilson bailey Martin

Strome Nelson grabner

Cizikas Clutterbuck abdelkader

Campbell macdonald

Hamonic de haan

Hickey strait

Nabokov

Poulin

dimaio34
dimaio34

Hoping donavon plays mon looking forward to see how his confidence is now after a few games in bridgeport

dimaio34
dimaio34

Pulock is killing it in Brandon getting lots of points

dimaio34
dimaio34

Hey how about adding Campbell from Florida. If they blow this road trip coming up wonder how this team looks after the deadline. I wouldn't trade amac

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

I know that WILLYMAYSHAYES has been on here saying from day 1 he wanted him on the top line with jt. to get him established...and I admit I hated the idea..i don't think you wanna break up the only line that scores...but I do wonder a bit now..maybe he should be up there with jt... or least with bailey and grabner.we know they can score ,maybe strome gets em going..

orange2327
orange2327

@mitchfritz the longer strome goes without scoring the more you do wonder about how good he really is!! The flip side of it if he were playing for a better team on their third line he probably would have scored!! Maybe the better argument is he should not have been called up if the plan was to stick him on a meaningless third line with nelson(who is not that good) and clusterbug/cmac!etc!!!

Don22
Don22

I will ask you again.  Why do you bother?  At least until Charles does sell this team, why do you waste your time?  Why are you watching games if there is nothing to root for?  If you are so skeptical about the young talent on this team then you can no longer root for OK or DeHaan or Hamonic or any other young player that does well.  If you do you are a hypocrite. 


I tried to pay you a compliment that I think you are a great fan and you tell me I'm delusional because I see some talent that I am hopeful can contribute to this team?  



Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

He knows Chuckles, Orange. Or has a friend of a friend that used to play basketball w him - one of those deals. Happy CA New Year, Don! Or is that Rm, or Red, or.....when you see sockpuppets descend on this place after a "significant event" lauding it in every which way, you know that there's major astroturfing that's going on here.

dzruggie
dzruggie

@dimaio34 What we needed was a top 10 pick to get Schnieder - why is that such a difficult concept?????

orange2327
orange2327

Yeah anything can happen like Wang bringing in a real gm/coach!! Wonders abound!!

orange2327
orange2327

What playoff are you talking about???

wmayshays
wmayshays

@dimaio34

Me too.  

I just wish he AND de Haan could both be paired with Hamonic.  

Pairing anyone (esp a young player) with Carkner or AMac is counterproductive. 

wmayshays
wmayshays

@dimaio34 

You have to be excited about the youthful defensive prospects.   It seems like every single one is getting good reviews.  And what I like most is that they're all big and strong.  No more Katic/Ness type players.   Pedan, Mayfield, Reinhart, Pokka,  Pelech, Sumerby, Leduc all big guys that will not get pushed around.  Nore will they be easy to get aroung with their arm reach.  Even Donovan and de Haan are 6' (+) and capable.  Pulock is built like a LBer.  



Bryan Ammirati
Bryan Ammirati

Why not he is our worst defenseman. I don't count carkner because he shouldn't even be playing. A mac does nothing good. Why exactly is he on the power play?

wmayshays
wmayshays

@mitchfritz

Yeah I still feel that way, though I understand why Strome should be playing center at some point.  I just think he could really grow with JT showing him the way.  Every single guy that plays with JT becomes a better player.  

Plus KO is like a second captain IMO, he should lead an improved second line. 
Put Nelson on the second line.  Spread out the youth, while giving them a good opportunity to succeed and build confidence.


PS. thanks for putting my tag in all caps ;)


Although I couldn't keep my full tag with SNY

dzruggie
dzruggie

@orange2327 No - the more Strome goes without scoring - YOU wonder how good he is.

rmreturns
rmreturns

You should check the rookie season of JT..

I think he went 8, and later 10 games without scoring... He survived, and is considered a pretty decent NHL player these days.

He's a young player, finding his way. Actually, with only 5 guys over the age of 30, this is a VERY young team - Nabby, Boulton, Carkner, VIZ, and Martenik are over 30.

Frans and Vanek will be 30 by the end of this season... VERY YOUNG team...

If you consider JT, Strome, Nelson and Cizikas as the four centers going forward..none is age 24..

That is very, very, young..

De Haan, Donovan, and Hamonic, none aged 24...

Give it time. The Sedin twins didn't start playing until they turned 20- feels like they have been here forever. Neither one topped 60 points til they turned 25.. They only topped 40 points when they were 24... Can't rush it, it takes time...

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@orange2327

im thinking along the same lines...orange.

I also just looked up his draft class..and everyone in top 5 except strome scored within 5 games ..most of em 2..

out of the top 10 in his draft class everyone had scored a goal within 10 games including the defensemen...and strome was the last of the top 10 to make his debut.

I do think theres a certain amount of games you don't want to go having not scored.because they start to question  elite status..then the negative press starts  etc etc

is he being nino'ed here ?

Don22
Don22

@Zee ExecutionerYour act is getting old.  I am assuming you are a fan of this team but you can't see anything positive.  You can't enjoy a win.  You can't root for any players because they are all flawed.  Tell me exactly what is your reason for even being here?  Don't start preaching to me how you've been a fan since 72 and are disgusted about how this proud franchise has fallen.  That's BS.  If you were any type of fan of this team you find something to root for.  Instead you come after guys like me that do root for the team and for the players and try to find something good.  You come up with the same rehashed lines about being friends with Chuckie or whatever.  You are nothing more than a troll and I am a fool for engaging in your BS.  I know guys like Orange and Camb don't like me either and can't wrap their heads around why someone would try to find positives in their team - but at least they offer decent hockey insights to these posts.  You offer nothing.  Nothing at all. 

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Actually, you can add Isles23 formerly known as Matt to the list. Wonder what happened to DAVID ALL CAPS sockpuppet. Kevin or whomever is behind so many of these poster handles, do bring his handle back. His comments were oh so insightful and entertaining!

orange2327
orange2327

Can we send crappy to the glue factory??

camb33
camb33

@orange2327 Uhhhh...Wangs playoffs?! Don't get it twisted, every team makes 'em

orange2327
orange2327

Cmon stop with the prospects stuff!! Its all speculation besides with Wang/snow/crappy its all moot!!! You know it!!

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@wmayshays

you will rarely see on a messageboard someone say "you changed my mind " but I think you have ..its very important to get this kid in the flow of scoring... that is what he is..he's a finesse scoring player..the grinder stuff cant go on too long.

MysteryMachine
MysteryMachine

@rmreturns All good comments but Strome does not appear to have nearly the same talent as Tavares (at least in my opinion from admittedly a very limited number of games). Tavares scored in his first NHL game and showed glimpses from day one.  Yes he went through some rough patches in his first season but also was surrounded by arguably worse players and a different coach.  Tavares had also just turned 19 when he began his career while Strome was 20.5 when he made his debut.  Nonetheless, you are correct that it may take a few years before we see Strome reach his full potential, whatever that may be.


On the flip side, a player like Bailey has had more than enough time to figure things out and does not belong in the NHL.  Unfortunately for me, I'm stuck watching him for another 4.5 years thanks to everyone's favorite GM.

orange2327
orange2327

I also think strome/nino are hamstrung by the fact that they are with a perennially poor franchise with serious issues regarding the owner/gm/coach/player development compounded by an atmosphere that has no recent history of success!! Even last years trip to the playoffs!! There was no carry over of confidence/cohesion/etc etc!! This atmosphere cannot nurture young talent/it has no basis/foundation of leadership to do so!! These are long term/institutional problems that can only be solved if ownership is serious about winning!!

Don22
Don22

@Zee ExecutionerSorry.  You should call Miriam Webster Dictionary if you don't like the definition. 

Boycotting what?  If you want to boycott then you should be boycotting everything Isles, not just what suits you.  Stop going to games.  Stop watching them on TV (yes, ratings help).  Stop posting here (yes, web hits help).  Stop everything.

I don't deny you the right to be frustrated or the right to criticize.  But don't preach and then go watch the game tonight. 

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Find something to root for? What crap. Why find something that isn't there unless you're selling something....like snake oil for example. The team moving is about as close to the nadir as one can get. The owner using the team he's moving as a tax shelter is galling. To try to sum up, boycotting is the only option for anyone who cares about this franchise. Non-cooperation with evil is as much a duty as cooperation with good. Gandhi said that.

And your definition of fan leaves something to be desired. Ardent enthusiasm, yes. That's in all dictionaries. I've seen zealous zeal, too. Uncritical support?! No, I don't think so. That sounds like a self-serving wiki deal there.

Don22
Don22

@Zee ExecutionerI have no problem with criticism.  I don't even think this team is above it.  But when all you do is criticize and can't find a single thing good about the team, then don't you think it's time to move on?

I'm not expecting you to all of the sudden say wow - you're right.  But why the hell do I have to be delusional or a toolbag or whatever just because I prefer to say - hey, we have some good prospects that may help the team.  Hey, we've played well the last week or so.  You spout such witty words as Emperor and Chairman when referring to Charles.  It seems to me that you are the one that is trying to be a dictatorial emperor because if someone doesn't agree with your "wisdom" then we are labeled as loyalists to the team or - haha, I love when you write this - friends with Chuckie.  Sorry Mein Fuhrer.  I don't agree with your rhetoric. 

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Once again.....intense uncritical devotion? Intense devotion? Yes. Uncritical? Please. No.

Only a complete toolbag devotes oneself uncritically. Do we even give family members and spouses uncritical devotion? Rainbows and unicorns you sell.

Don22
Don22

@Zee Executioner Forget my definition. Why don't we use the actual definition of the word Fan - short for fanatic by the way:

marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion 

 

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

I suppose it depends on Don's definition of what it is to be a fan.

I think at this point to expect anything besides poor results until the Emperor sells is ridiculous, sad, pathetic folly.

Don22
Don22

@orange2327If you keep having that attitude then you might as well stop being a fan until they sell the team.  I mean come on?  What's the point?


Vic, I know you are a big fan. But if you can't even let yourself be hopeful for some of the good young talent in the system, then it's really not worth sticking around.  Yes, it's speculation - but speculation worth getting excited about.

wmayshays
wmayshays

@orange2327 

Speculation is not pure gamble. 

Be reasonable, strength in numbers and positive signs of growth bode well.  It makes me feel a bit more confident about the future.  


And aren't you glad they're not the shrimps we're used to banking on?

wmayshays
wmayshays

@mitchfritz@wmayshays 

The young players might have a learning curve that must be tolerated, but it could be a steep one.   Besides it was youthful aggressiveness that really led to the strong forchecking, turnovers and scoring opportunities, which in turn helped us get as far as we did last yr.  

Putting guys like Nelson and Strome on the top lines does not preclude this team from making the playoffs.

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@wmayshays @mitchfritz

growth and ability over service time <<<<<<absolutely agree ..I think its getting close to the point where making the playoffs this year is not as important as the development of these kids.. god forbid strome is less then billed as and hoped for it would be an absolute disaster.same with the other kids to a lesser degree..playoffs would be nice also..but it is what it is...

wmayshays
wmayshays

@mitchfritz@wmayshays

Exactly, Cappy can certainly do more to help the rookies improve, IMO.  

Even if he was a GREAT coach and every practice was better than the last, most of what you learn is in game and hands on (so to speak)   He needs to have a game plan that puts growth and ability over service time. 

rmreturns
rmreturns

Strome isn't Tavares. If I implied thts, my fault. Strome should be an outstanding second line center.

Bailey- considering where KO was last season, anything is possible. Bailey is easy to figure out- Shots on Goal.

He had 76 shots in 38 games last year, vs 47 shots in 38 games this season. He took 104 shots in 80 games in 2011-'12. You don't shoot, you don't score.. Half the shots, 1/2 the goals. He needs to figure that out to be successful.

wmayshays
wmayshays

@mitchfritz@orange2327 

+100000

I know Wang is not selling right now, I also don't think Wang is going to fire Snow right now.  And since I know Snow will not fire himself, I can only hope that the coaching gets upgraded.  I don't dislike Cappy as a person, and I think he might even be a good coach someday.  BUT I do not think he is the man for this team.  Not right now.

orange2327
orange2327

@ mitchfritz its not just Cappy its a complete top to bottom organizational issue IMO!!

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@orange2327

that's where I think coaching comes in....you have to wonder if cappy is the right guy to develop these blue chips..can these kids believe in him...