Strome Back to Bridgeport, Martinek Off IR

The Islanders are sending Ryan Strome back to Bridgeport.

New York needs to make room on the roster as Radek Martinek is coming off injured reserve (Staple).

Strome was named to the AHL All-Star team on January 9.

Staple also notes that “NHL teams received a memo prior to season saying that a player who plays more than 15 of 20 games prior to Olympic break cannot be assigned to AHL during break.”

He also quotes Garth Snow as saying: “The development of all our young players is important. (Strome) needs to play during the break.”

Kevin Schultz, Islanders Point Blank:

This move seemed like it was to open up a spot for Martinek, which is what the Islanders wanted to do, although there’s a strong argument that Peter Regin could easily be sent through waivers. Regin hasn’t played since January 6, sitting out the last four games.

However, given Snow’s quote above the team was obviously looking at Strome getting playing time over the Olympic break. 

Strome had four points in 15 games and seems to have played well in his appearances. He backchecked noticably (to me, at least) on a number of occasions and was credited for 16 hits in 15 games, so it wasn’t as though he wasn’t physical at all.

While 4 points in 15 games isn’t stunning, Strome’s possession numbers were among the best on the team. Strome was fourth on the team in Fenwick at 50.9%. This number is the same as Corsi, except it removes blocked shots from the totals. It assumes that blocked shots are a skill that some players or teams may be better at. So, Strome is the fourth best Islander at getting non-blocked shot attempts for his team.

But, more than anything, the Islanders were successful with Strome on the ice. The team was 8-4-2 in the 15 games that Strome played.

Hopefully, this is a temporary move. Strome hasn’t been particularly over matched or bad at the NHL level.

Also, one other note, is that Calvin de Haan and Matt Donovan are also eligible to head to the AHL for the Olympic break. To do so by the rules Staple tweeted above, the Islanders would have to send them down the night prior to the outdoor game against the Rangers. Is that in the plans, too?




147 comments
jepliberty
jepliberty

Perhaps Strome was sent down due to they have a home, and home with the Flyers coming up, and didn't want Ryan to get his face pushed in ruining his pretty boy face, we all know how they get their panties soiled when they go against larger teams, that play a physical style and adding Martinek is not the answer as he is just another stringbean, that can't play his position, and really never could play it satisfactory.

Yehudah Block
Yehudah Block

As defenders, I would definitely give DeHaan and Donovan a break to keep them fresh for 2nd half.

truth77
truth77

Polka is way ahead of Reinhardt.We could use Polka now!

truth77
truth77

@orange2327  I agree ,I think ,didnt look it up it Reinhardt is something like 2-9 total 11 points for  his Jr team this year. For a   almost 20 year old playing against mostly 17-18- year old that is not killing it.Where take for example  Olllie Mattaa makes the  big team Pittsburgh first try ,then make Finnish Adult not juniors Olympic team. He was drafted around 13th same year as Reinhardt.

erika
erika

Can't a week go by without this team making a controversial move that has everyone scratching their heads in disbelief?


mitchfritz
mitchfritz

"The first thing he probably realizes, and we talked about it, is that he wanted to create more from an offensive standpoint. The defensemen are bigger and stronger [in the NHL], the forwards track a lot harder and you don't have that time and space, but the fact that he recognizes those things shows his attention to detail and the willingness to get better. That's what I really like about Ryan and he knows he has to get stronger to play better down low and away from the puck. It's not a demotion, it's a process and it's good for his development to continue to play as we move forward."

In 15 NHL games thus far, Strome has one goal and three assists, with 33 shots, an average of 17 shifts per game and 13:30 of ice time, including 1:42 of power play time.

Capuano continued:

"We put him in a top-nine role. We put him on the power play a little bit. It's not like we didn't give him some offensive opportunities. He got some minutes. Late in tight games, I cut his minutes a little bit and put Casey on that line because of the inexperience and the strength and [Strome] was great. He watched the video and asked a lot of questions.

"I think he has a bright future. He's an offensively-gifted player, and to hear him say he wanted to create more; he understands how he has to create more. That's being heavier on sticks, getting into those battle levels and defending a little harder because as a centerman, good defense is going to lead to offense. I think his opportunity, as we move forward, he'll have a bigger role on our hockey club."

so is he gonna go bulk up over the Olympics? all these strength issues cappys talking about...what he's gonna go have a few rich dinners and some craft ales in Bridgeport for a month?  not scoring the way they'd like..hmmmmm but this is no demotion this is to make room for radek , I mean to gain strength in 6 extra games in the minors..or is it like the coach said ..he's not ready ..he's weak and he didn't produce...and basically our top 5 pick ..3 years ago is a project in the works ..like everything islanders..

rm..the veil of secrecy is cracking a bit...better tell wang n the boys to tighten it up a bit.....they're slipping..

realhlywd
realhlywd

I don't know about this one! For starters, he really should've been paired with Nelson right from the start as they've proven to have great chemistry in the AHL. Not sure what they were thinking not to even give them a fair shake and see what they could do. Could've at least kept him up until the outdoor game was over. Kills me that Regin will be in the lineup on a nightly basis now until at least the break!


On another note, Oilers just traded for Ben Scrivens and only gave up a 3rd round pick. 

Has a 1.97 GAA and .931 save percentage this season.

Not sure where Garth was hiding on this one. Would've been a great pickup


mitchfritz
mitchfritz

he came up at 20 later than the rest of his class..got manhandled and pushed all over the ice like a girl..and got demoted for a guy who was passed over by every team in the league..e ven the isles didn't wanna bring radek back..and I saw it early on ,called it and ..everyone of ya's know it..

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

flip flop much rm ??? numbers don't lie..unless they don't fit your argument ...right..

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

every player  top 5.. last 3 drafts making impact but strome.... but give me some corsi's

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

just because I know how much many of you love stats..heres some for ya...

2011 draft 1.hopkins -20yro. 3rd yr.nhl  goals-18-4-13

2.landeskog-21yro 3rd yr.nhl g-22-9-13

3.huberdeau- 20yro -2yr nhl -g-14 -7

4.larsson def. 21 yro.3rd yr nhl -g-14 -7

5.strome 20 yr. 1st yr nhl..1 goal demoted for a subway turnstile

6.zibanjad- 20 yro- 3nd yr nhl  g- 6-7-10

7.schefele-20 yro-1st yr. nhl g-7 -p-24

8.courtier 21yro-3rd yr. g- 13-4-8

9.hamilton.def. 20 yro. 2nd year nhl g- 5-4

10.brodin 20yro 2nd yr.nhl. g-2 7...

2012 draft.

1,yakopov 20yr, 2nd yr.nhl  g-17-9

2.murray 20yr. 1st yr.nhl   3-11-14

3.galchenyuk-19 yro -2ndyr.nhl  g-9-10

4.griff...minors

5.rielly- 19yo -1st yr.nhl 1-11-12

2013 draft.

1.mckinnon 18yro. 1st yr nhl.-g-15 p-29

2.barkov  18yro. 1st yr.nhl  g-8 p23

3.drouin- minors

4.jones def. 19yr.o.- g-4 -p18

5.lindholm 19 yro. g-4 -p-10....

now don't tell me ..if strome was performing like any one of these top 10 or top 5 picks over the last 3 years he'd be getting demoted for a subway turnstile who wouldn't make the lineup of any nhl team other than isles...infact nobody wanted radek ..nobody...

TOP 5 PICKS are instant impact players all across the league ..only in islander country do you get wait wait wait wait.... cuz he's gonna be a superstar one fine day.....

right now over the last 3 drafts... stats support strome is a typical isles whammy..... but i'll keep waiting and dreaming just once  besides j.t.  our big pick isn't a project ...just once why cant our top 5 supposed franchise come in and play like one..

kevinpt
kevinpt

I don't understand why everyone is freaking out. He'll be back after the Olympics. I'm sure Strome is fine with this.


I also don't understand how everyone is worried that he's playing on the third line. To me, the second and third lines are about interchangeable. I don't see how it has to be such a hierarchy. Again, I'm sure Strome is fine with playing on the third line too. 

isles23
isles23

OK after learning this I'm not as upset. The NHL sent a notice to all teams stipulating that if a player plays more than 15 games in the NHL he may not be loaned to the AHL during the Olympic break. Well see Strome for after the break..

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

laughable...that anyone would buy the company line...you really think strome would be sent down for radek f'in 'martinek..who will end up scratched half the games he's on the roster..if he was lighting it up like all the rest of the super prospects even younger than him across the league? god some of you shillsk know nothing about pro sports..strome is being sent down cuz he wasn't ready...he's not strong enough...which brings into question if he was truly a top 5 worthy ..3 years ago.... he performed like a late 1st rd. project at best...

this shame story is a typical coverup a front office mistake ..presser,,,,

mark my words wont be long till people all over hockey will be questioning if strome was truly worth the number 5 pick..3 years ago....

shlo
shlo

@truth77 Another issue may be that our AHL coaching and player development staff is not as good as it should be. I am aware the Reinhardt did not go through BP and just may not, he'll come straight to the NHL, but many other prospects just don't seem to develop as well as prospects on other teams.

shlo
shlo

@truth77  That shows you that even Central Scouting can miss with prospects in term of development. I did not check it but I am pretty sure that Ollie Mattaa was  not ranked as high as Reinhardt.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@erika

The head troll on these threads rm is not scratching his head, only his arse.

Isleguy27
Isleguy27

Before you anoint him the next Patrick Roy, lets see what his numbers look like in a couple of months playing with the Oilers.

Vicp73
Vicp73

@realhlywd I actually suggested that a few weeks ago, LA, Washington and Anaheim all have three solid goalies in there system, if anything Scrivens would have been a good depth move for the Isles. But hey Garth knows best

orange2327
orange2327

Hey Mitch don't you have any faith that regin is gonna just light it up??? Cmon your too negative!!!!!!lolz!!

Joey Ferguson
Joey Ferguson

@mitchfritz kid played 15 career games and your already throwing him to the curb? really? the islanders got burned by bringing bailey right to the nhl and snow doesnt want to make the same mistake. and clowns like you bash him for rushing guys then bash him for trying to develop them. make up your mind do you want them brought directly to the nhl or do you want them developed. because you seem to complain about it either way.

orange2327
orange2327

Excellent post Mitch cannot argue with the thesis of your argument!! Problem with you is that you worry the likes of rmreturns/don22 who are content in their Wang built domicile of mediocrity!!

Don22
Don22

@kevinpt Because that's their MO Kevin.  When the day comes when the ownership/GM/Coach changes, they will still find something to complain about.  What is worse is how they flip flop.  DeHaan was a bust, but now he is great.  Strome needs to be here, but now he sucks.  Bring up Donovan.  He stinks.  Why isn't he playing.  Bring up Ness.  He deserves to be here.  Get rid of Ness, he's tiny and sucks. 

When Strome comes back and when he starts producing, I don't want to see these guys saying how good he is doing.  I don't want to read "well, I thought he sucks, but I admit I was wrong".  No, if you are going to preach about how much you know and decry anyone that dare disagree with you, then stick to your guns.  You can't root for a player when it suits you.

Sorry man.  I am just so pissed right now.  I have guys mentioning me in their posts like I am some sort of idiot because I dare say it's not a huge deal that Strome is sent down for a bit.  I'm just tired of it. 

dzruggie
dzruggie

@mitchfritz YOu really make no sense at all.  Unbelievably you feel there is a conspiracy to ruin a pick.  Nothing to do with Hamonic possibly out with a concussion and the need to carry another D...just ignore the fact that they want him playing during the break, is that a bad thing?  Is possibly going back down and applying what he just learned, master it and come back better not even cross your mind?  No - it is the company line conspiracy.  Really???

Isleguy27
Isleguy27

@mitchfritz I'll mark those words and will be posting back to you in the near future sir!

Don22
Don22

@mitchfritzWhy do you care Mitch?  You were just saying how bad he was doing.  What is wrong with wanting to get him more minutes?  

I'm marking your words, and when Strome does come up and play to his capability, I'd love to hear what you have to say.  


Forget shills Mitch.  You are a typical armchair GM/Coach/Whatever that thinks he knows better than people who actually are with the team day in and day out and know their players.  I'm so sick of it.  


Tomorrow Garth will say the sky is blue and will adamantly deny he is right and say it is part of a coverup. 

mrcisback
mrcisback

@mitchfritz  What more do you want from the guy for crying out loud he was leading the AHL in scoring as a rookie before he was called up to the islanders. Lets give the guy a chance before we throw him under the bus.

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@rmreturns

hey schill..if you've ever read any of my posts about nino... I never liked him ..I said it was a bad 5th pick... I actualy defend getting rid of him... but point out in the end as I said in thebeginning  the nino pick was another disaster by garth.... but you keep making stuff up when you got nothing else to say...

get it straight nino was a top 5... top 5 should provide an instant impact not be a 5 year project.....another bad one by your boy garth...

mrcisback
mrcisback

@victor pereira @realhlywd  I wonder what it would take to get Frederick Anderson in a trade from Anaheim. He looks like the real deal and he's only 24 years old.   Since Anaheim has 3 goaltenders he might be available.

dkdk
dkdk

He is the best GM hired out of a shower ever

dkdk
dkdk

Look how much better Regin is than reasoner was.

orange2327
orange2327

Reinhardt hasn't played one minute in the bigs FYI!! Let's stop making out to be Chris pronger Jr until he laces em up in the men's lge!!

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@Joey Ferguson @mitchfritz

slow to develop means slow to reach their potential in the nhl...kyle okposo was slow to develop as a 15th pick...he scored 18 goals as a 20 year old rookie...

josh bailey is slow to develop ..he scored 16 as a 19 year old..

slow to develop into playing in the nhl  for a top 5 pick of gath snow is a slight bit of a red flag..

and its clowns like you who lap up everything this organization sells you like a giddy schoolboy  that keep the shame going..

btw..the isles are already backing off the ,just for the Olympic break farse..go read your boy cappys latest statements ,basically they say what I said ..he got manhandled.and he needs to score...but you belive the bit about fine tuning over the Olympic break

Adam Mumford
Adam Mumford

@Joey Ferguson Some people aren't happy unless they're complaining.  If we were in first (a pipe dream) there'd still be people bitching about the shade of blue in the uniform or what color someone's stick was.

Don22
Don22

@orange2327 WTF Orange?  You guys are the same guys that were labeling DeHaan a bust because he hasn't done anything and now that he is finally up he is a hockey god.  You couldn't wait until Strome came up and now he's garbage.  You flip flop like the wind.  The team goes on a win streak and all is good.  The team loses a game and you are back to everyone is crap.  In my opinion, Strome is a very good talent that probably still should have stayed at the AHL for one more season.  When the day comes that he does play regularly on the team and does well, I don't want to see any comments from you guys saying how great he is doing.  Stop flip flopping on players. 

You're right.  I'm content with  mediocrity.  I love losing.  It fuels me.  Actually, I love this hockey team but I'm smart enough to know it's a game and doesn't define my life.  I long for the day when they are good again and I am hopeful that it will be soon.  I don't like how things have been going with this team.  I don't agree with all that Wang has done, but I understand it.  I don't agree with everything Garth has done, but I'm smart enough to know that I'm not a GM.  I'm not with this team every day and I don't know the players like they do.  I leave that up to them and root for my team.  But you guys just can't wrap your heads around that.  You can't conceive the idea that someone who does not unilaterally disagree with everything Wang/Garth/Cap can actually be a fan. 

shamwow
shamwow

@orange2327 

Mediocrity? This "Organization" merely aspires to such heights.

kevinpt
kevinpt

@Don22 @kevinpt 


Don't let it get to you. And you forgot to mention the biggest flip flop of all: 

Last yr: Okposo sucks, we need to trade him or waive him now, he shouldn't be on this team. 

This year - Okposo is a beast, I can't believe he was left off the USA team.

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@Don22 @mitchfritz

well don..i watch and follow drafts and watch a lot of minor league hockey..i want to believe..but im very suspicious of wang.. our coach  and our goalie g.m. in training.. I started to get suspicious of strome by his handling in the minors.. I heard all the praises.. but like nino ..I saw many draft boards with him at 10 -15.. many at 7-10..some at 5 -10.. but he wasn't a lock top 5... islanders sold im as...and hard... ive heard he's another j.t. or close...  ok... i'll buy ... but jt's come up at 18 -19 and its there...game 1..you see it...buy game 5 you've seen glimpse of the future.. strome being last of top ten to get called up and babied on a 3rd line raises my antenna whooooa you mean the next superstar needs to learn to play like dan plante...oh ok.. ..sorry..i think they knew he wasn't ready...getting demoted from one of the worst teams in hockey for radek,or to play a handful of ahl games for seasoning.or allstar games  ..a  week ago jiggs  says on tv..congrates to ryan strome on making the al allstars.. but he'll never see bgpt again unless somethings wrong.. fact is if strome was producing anything close to  what a top5 should look like he stays here....

Brian Thomas
Brian Thomas

@rmreturns If he's so good he's should be able transfer half that production to the NHL he hasn't been able to. He was brought up to score and he hasn't done that.

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@rmreturns

right nino was a bad top 5 pick...I agree...snow has a history of taking projects

orange2327
orange2327

'' the same guy drafted both players" correct he also drafted bailey and was willing to trade 7 picks to cbj to get Ryan Murray!!!

mrcisback
mrcisback

@rmreturns  RM is almost 6PM and all the negative Islander fans are just about ready to come out. I was watching that 2011 NHL draft and i thought the Islanders were going to pick Sean Couturier or Dougie Hamilton but when the Islanders selected Ryan strome i remember Bob McKenzie raving about the pick of Ryan Strome.  All i know is John Tavares speaks very highly of Strome and i think he knows a little bit about hockey.

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@mrcisback @mitchfritz

while everyone one else in the top 10 in his draft is producing in the nhl...I should be happy he's rippin up the ahl... yay!!happy days are here again....

again this is a top 5 of 3 years ago.....

jepliberty
jepliberty

@rmreturns

What's your problem pal? You begin by insulting me and then you have a problem with me? You're the guy who thinks he is the all and powerful OZ, putting many postors down because you disagree with their comments, put a sock in it, and stop sticking your nose in everytime. PS I read your posts and many of them are not only foolish, but half witted as well, with your line picks, and moves that should occur by management, so go call Garth and ask for a job. 

mrcisback
mrcisback

@Lyle Odelein  And i remember Patrick Stefan was supposed to be a franchise player similar to Tavares and he turned out to be basically a bust with concussion problems. I think Strome will be a 60 to 70 point player with in 2 years.

Isleguy27
Isleguy27

What a crock Mitch. A top 5 should provide instant impact. Look through history and other draft picks that never became impact players or even NHL regulars.

Al Montoya: no. 6 overall (Rangers) 2004

Nikita Filatov: no. 6 (Blue Jackets) 2008

Patrik Stefan: no. 1 (Thrashers) 1999

Thomas Hickey: no. 4 (Kings) 2007

Alexander Daigle: no. 1 (Senators) 1993

Alexandre Volchkov: no. 4 (Washington) 1996

Alexander Svitov: no. 3 (Lightning) 2001

dkdk
dkdk

They don't necessarily need to move one but even without hiller or Gibson in the mix they still have two valuable trade chips.

dzruggie
dzruggie

@dkdk Gibson is there guy of the future....they do not need to move one now unless they feel they will sign Hiller

dkdk
dkdk

I thought so, but wasn't sure myself. It is amazing that there are more than a couple of teams with 3 or more goalies.

Vicp73
Vicp73

@dkdk Your right, totally forgot about him. 

Vicp73
Vicp73

@mrcisback It all depends what happens with Hiller, If they move him before the deadline i can't see them trading Anderson. Viktor Fasth  could also be a nice option. Personally I would target Holtby in Washington.

dkdk
dkdk

Don't they have Gibson also? If he is their property they are really 4 deep.

orange2327
orange2327

Yeah and harry could play a ''60 minute'' game which marty couldn't!!!

dkdk
dkdk

Well Marty only out scored Harry 1-0 in the blue and orange so it is probably one in the same.

orange2327
orange2327

Did you mean marty or harry reasoner??

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@Joey Ferguson @mitchfritz

sorry joey pom poms..but never said he's trash ..I said he will not be a superstar as billed....which is absolutely vital..to a rebuild that a top five pick does become a superstar..especially when dealing with an organization that wont go heavy into free agent market...ok pom poms..now go back to whining about referee's..and make sure your here with a full apology when im proven right..again..

Joey Ferguson
Joey Ferguson

@mitchfritz @Joey Ferguson  no slow to develop means slow to develop. he can manage at one level but have a hard time adjusting to the next level.  saying that someone is slow to develop means slow to reach there potential in the nhl shows you are clueless. there are steps in the development in players. thats why there are different levels they go through before playing in the nhl. he played 15 games. that isnt much of a chance to adjust considering he is playing with 3rd line talent. strome is a great talent he just doesnt have the line mates to show it right now and you are already saying he is trash? really? you are clueless.

dkdk
dkdk

In2028 when we are first place your theory will be put to the test

orange2327
orange2327

Hey I never said De haan was a bust but can we see him play a half season before we declare him to be a Norris trophy winner???

Don22
Don22

@kevinpt@Don22I know. I don't know why I let it get to me.  There are sanctimonious know it alls on both sides of the argument for sure.  But there are a lot on the other side that - when you don't agree with you like to spout that they have been a fan since '72 or that they watch every draft/minor league game etc.  And when that doesn't work, they just call you a clueless moron.  I get caught up in it for some stupid reason. 

orange2327
orange2327

Jeezus stop mentioning ''he drafted JT didn't he''!! That was a no brainer and stop saying duscene was rated higher cause by the week of the 2009 draft everyone knew he would pick tavares!! BTW they still are too soft a team IMO!! The panthers big men pushed them all over the place!! The 2014 panthers!! Not the broad street bullies!!

Vicp73
Vicp73

@rmreturns Bob Mackenzie also Can't believe that Snow and Capuano are still employed by an NHL team. You need to stop talking down to people like everyone is stupid. If you were standing face to face with any of us would you have the balls to talk smack? Probably not!

mitchfritz
mitchfritz

@rmreturns

hey shill ...3 drafts  and everyones making an impact but strome..he's being demoted for a guy that NOBODY wanted to sign... he was out of hockey if not for desperate isles.. now you just ignore all those stats above... and just lean on corsi's when they fit your bill..

orange2327
orange2327

@mitch fritz!! Amen don't buy the company line!! Strome is better off staying here playing the next 12 games instead of going to BP!! unless.....well I won't even go there(bust)????

Joey Ferguson
Joey Ferguson

@mitchfritz @mrcisback they want him playing during the olympic break which i see as a decent reason to send him back to bp. hell it takes some guys time to adjust to the nhl level not everyone can come up and hit it off.