This Year, Tensions Mount Behind Closed Doors

Kevin Schultz

On February 11th of last season, frustrations boiled over as the Islanders allowed four third period goals to the Carolina Hurricanes in a 6-4 loss at the Coliseum. Sticks were slammed and heads were held as the team lost their fifth in a row to fall to 4-7-1 on the year. If you need a refresher, here it is in video form:

That’s one thing that we haven’t seen too much of during this nine game, 2-12-2 streak; anger and despondency on camera for all to witness. There’s been some sticks slammed after goals but nothing quite like the display in the above video.

At the time, the video above was cathartic to a portion of the fanbase (the comments are gone but trust me, that’s what a lot of them were). It was the players reacting to the scoreline the same way a fan might; with frustration, heads in hands and clenched fists.

The team responded, too. They won four of the next six, starting with John Tavares beating the Rangers in a shootout three nights later at the Garden. It wasn’t all roses — there was another tough stretch before they went on the playoff clinching heater — but the season seemed to shift slightly after that.

Last night, the Islanders held a closed-door meeting after losing their ninth in a row by a 3-0 score to the Los Angeles Kings. Via ProHockeyTalk:

The players held a closed-door meeting after dropping their ninth consecutive contest to give each of them an opportunity to speak to the group, according to Newsday. But after going so long without a win, is there really anything that’s been left unsaid?

If I’m counting right it was also the team’s third closed-door, players only meeting of the season. It follows other meetings on November 9th after a 6-2 loss in Columbus and November 20th after losing on the road by a 5-2 margin, this time in Toronto.

This year, for the most part, there hasn’t been a display like the one witnessed above. Everything has been aired behind closed doors in players only meetings. And last year, there wasn’t a single closed-door meeting. Maybe that’s a function of a new captain and new assistant captain whole handle things differently than the previous regime.

But it’s interesting to note the difference in how things are being addressed.

Of course, there’s no way to really tell exactly how the players feel now as compared to back in February. There’s no getting in their heads aside from the more or less restrained responses in the post-game.

Sometimes it’s nice to see the anger and emotion out in the open. When it comes from a player who is usually calm and collected like Tavares is, it can be a surprise and maybe even a create spark, as it arguably did last season.

For now, it’s closed doors and players only as the team attempts to salvage the season and end the awful, unacceptable losing streak.




93 comments
MysteryMachine
MysteryMachine

I wouldn't be surprised if Wang bequeaths the Islanders to his 10-year old son. Sadly, his son would be an improvement.

Blake Waldman
Blake Waldman

my biggest fear right now is that Snow will become Milbury and decide that he doesnt need a coach at all and he can be GM and coach the team too.


Because you know he can talk Wang into it.


I thought Snow was actually holding his own with the rest of the GMs in the league until the Moulson deal.... Wang liked Moulson, you know Snow had to talk him into that one and got it - and threw away one of the only working elements of our "rebuild" - he had genuine chemistry with JT that was borne over playing together for most of their lives starting as kids, and we just said "so what" and threw it away.  probably threw away any feeling of hope in the locker room by doing so as well.

Blake Waldman
Blake Waldman

well - when the team sees a minor league coach make it to the big leagues and lose and lose and lose and still not get fired - why should they think they have any risk by being as unimpressive as he is? 


or have teammates that no matter how long it takes for them to "pan out" to the player everyone "thought they were going to be" and still get millions of dollars in contracts and confidence from upper management.... bailey, okposo, are your ears ringing - talking about you.... why should anyone be worried enough to be passionate about winning?  I feel for Johnny T.... he truly wants nothing but to win and I am sure having so few players beside him that can play at his level must be frustrating as all git out.


i mean we even just re-signed the epitome of the ideal - a veteran glass defenseman.  dont get me wrong, I think martinek was and always has been a fantastic defenseman - very smart both defensively and with his offensive outlet passes and great at shutting down top offensive talent... I have been a robust fan of him whenever he is on the ice.... for the few minutes he gets to play before taking a 25-game-missing injury again.  our longest running veteran at 12 years, I believe, although I dont think he has ever actually finished a season... hell I remember him coming back from injury and not making through his first game back.  But we keep bringing him back, again and again and again.

bobb
bobb

Wang has said before to the Islander fans in public that if you don't like the product, then stay home. Staying home won't get the job done, but chanting "Snow Must Go" or "Sell Them Wang" at every home game over and over may at least embarrass them the way they've embarrassed the fans.

chapman
chapman

How long are the going to hold on to Bailey?....This guy was a #9 overall pick...What a bust?

jepliberty
jepliberty

The old hockey adage is if your feet are moving, that means you are skating, but with our bunch of smurphs if their feet are moving that means one thing, due to their diminutive sizes they are probably on their collective backs flailing to get up like a dying cockroach.

microcosmo
microcosmo

I remember watching the 1999-2000 season it was another pathetic no hope of bring good season, 56 points or something. The players Definitly weren't as good as now. the next year however A coach named Peter laviolete was brought in along with Yashin. Peca and a 28 yr old Chris Osgood. that team finished with 90+ points. can vanek be a better yashin? duh! is taveras a micheal peca? doesn't hit like him but is more skilled. is there a Osgood out there? can Peter come back? Also I just read an article of Mad mike the GM at the time actually asking what Peter would want to do with Osgood - the goalie Snow got over shadowed for in his hopes of starting that year... snow might be worse then mad mike in that coaching department

dgputney
dgputney

Look the Isles scored 4 goals

they can`t do that now --

orange
orange

Maybe they should slam their hockey sticks on Wang and Snow's head

isles22
isles22

P.S.  Bring back Laviolette!  Either Lavi or Brent Sutter.  Both have NHL experience, have previous Islander ties, would take the job seriously, and capture the players' attention.   S.O.S...Save Our Season!!!

Jason Zimmermann
Jason Zimmermann

@Blake Waldman There should be no fear. We've seen the worst of it, and still, we know it can get worse. If it does get worse, and it likely will, it should come as no surprise.

Blake Waldman
Blake Waldman

@bobb Wang will probably never sell - this team is the best tax shelter a billionaire can ask for - basement on the salary cap, no expectations from his peers or his league overseers, 20 million-plus loss to write off each season - gets his own jersey - and doesn't have to deal with the govt. about overseas accounts he uses for tax avoidance.  He has the Islanders - the money sucking losing team that nobody expects to be anything but.

Jason Zimmermann
Jason Zimmermann

@chapman What was that cartoon where the guy had that dead pet and swore it was going to be OK? I can't remember, but that's how the Islanders handle their disastrous #1 picks.

Blake Waldman
Blake Waldman

@chapman we will re-sign him and give him a raise!  That's what this team does... go balls out on some young kid - one that nobody else sees as being worth the pick we wasted on him - and then wait for them to pan out.  but they never do - but we keep waiting, and waiting, and waiting.... this kid will spend his entire career on this team.

bobb
bobb

How long is Wang going to hold onto Snow is the better question.

dkdk
dkdk

He will be making 3.5-4 per on the tail end of his contract. Going to be hard find a taker unless it is a bad contract change of scenery type of deal.

Derek Scheer
Derek Scheer

It amazes me Snow has held onto his job as long as he has. He is flat out a terrible GM , he has been hiding behind the rebuild mirage and is finally being exposed as in incompetent fraud.

bobb
bobb

It'll be all Rangers fans anyway. I'm not paying $300 to have them tell me how bad the Islanders suck!

wally1616
wally1616

I can't imagine what Yankee Stadium is going to sound like especially with what the coliseum sounds like at and ahl Islander - ragsh/t game.

dkdk
dkdk

@snowstorm, you are perfectly right. I have been there since the first game on my uncles lap as a 3 year old in 72. All I have known in sports is loving the Isles above all else and wang/snow is making it harder by the day. I was given awesome seats for free against the kings a few weeks ago and wasn't sure I wanted to pay for parking and dinner at the game. That is what it has come to. I already turned in my season plan a few years ago and now I debate about even going to a single game because of those 2 jack offs.

PCap
PCap

@snostorm Perfectly put, I feel exactly the same.  How many more times do we have to be in this position as fans.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@Alex Rodriguez Dogs to eat Wang instead of the reverse? Pretty funny, except to a few wusses who are so PC they abhor comments like this.

Don22
Don22

@Alex Rodriguez I'm not defending Wang on that, but let's not forget that fan also was arrested for sexual assault after a game.  If you know who I am talking about, that guy was a fan - yes, but not exactly a pillar of the community. 

Paul Naples
Paul Naples

@Alex Rodriguez He told the fan to sit and and shut up?? He's a Fucking Idiot!!! Sell the team to someone with a FUCKING CLUE  you incompetent...........


tag1
tag1

I think Sutter was offered the Isles job and turned it down then took the Devils job, wang is still here and the organization is still a joke I don't see why he would take the job now.

wmayshays
wmayshays

Just a hunch but I don't think Snow wants someone smarter than him as head coach.  I think he's comfortable with a cappy.  If Capuano is removed and Snow is still here, I'd guarantee a lateral move.


Wang has to step up, take off the blinders and fire Snow.

Blake Waldman
Blake Waldman

@Jason Zimmermann @Blake Waldman jason, unfortunately you are right.... there will be no surprise... just amazement that there could be so few competent hockey people involved in the organization that bill torrey built.  Maybe we could drag HIM out of retirement?  Couldn't do worse, as you state  lol :)

Too bad old Al is not interested in getting back into it at this age.... if it were up to me and he wanted to, I would let Arbour die behind the bench.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@mitchfritz @jepliberty Hey Mitch, ya know when I come across names in here like yours, and a few others I actually see Mitch Fritz the player in my minds eye but not so with others. lol

isles75
isles75

Who could blame you DK. We need a rebuild for our rebuild. BTW, where are all the big Wang supporters who we're praising him as our savior for the move to Brooklyn? Hopefully, hiding under a rock..

tag1
tag1

I think anyone who bought tickets in advance and paid full price are going to be pissed when they see how much the tickets will be the day of the game on stubhub.

shamwow
shamwow

@Paul Naples @Alex Rodriguez

Chuck Wang didn't become a billionaire through incompetence, he earned it the old fashioned way: THEFT... Stop pleading with the fraudster to "Wise up", "Get a clue", "Hire a competent GM", etc... Chuck is doing precisely what criminals do, exploiting the vulnerable and ignorant - and he's expert at it. 

jepliberty
jepliberty

@wmayshays Smarter then him? Cadavers on 'Walking Dead' are more astute, and smarter then him.

shamwow
shamwow

@wmayshays

"Wang has to step up, take off the blinders..." Are you serious?! He hired the damned backup goalie as GM for a reason, and it wasn't to oversee a team rebuild; Snow is nothing more than Chuck's useful idiot; a yes-man front-man to parade in front of the media and fans while Chuck was busy trying to outmaneuver the political criminals he faced in his attempt to pull off the 77-ace land swindle...


You're like the folks who just can't accept Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy because the idea that the most powerful man on Earth could be killed by such a low-life loser is too implausible to contemplate.


Chuck Wang does not and never has cared one iota about hockey, NY Islanders, Team legacy, or the fans; his game is high crimes and misdemeanors...


And fall guys and patsies... Hmm, was Sanjay on the grassy knoll?

dkdk
dkdk

@isles75

Great, how is everything Ted? Trying to reconnect with friends is a little challenging with this changing format.

It is nice not reading how enjoyable and entertaining the last couple of losses were. It seems like more and more people are starting to realize hat taking is crap will lead to more crap. FINALLY!

jepliberty
jepliberty

@mitchfritz Yeah and then they could have a whole bunch of SB rap artist at the Barc in between periods.

isles75
isles75

@dkdk BTW, Dk it's Ted. I changed my username with this new format. Good to see a lot of the "know it alls" have stopped posting their dribble of supporting Wang and the circus he continues to make of this organization...

dkdk
dkdk

@75 ..... They started disappearing after the Barclays game. Remember how they told us the arena would be reconfigured to fit a rink, then Yormark said what you see is what you will get, then they ran away.

shamwow
shamwow

@isles75

They're busy crunching CORSI stats, readying a takedown of all you non-believers.

tag1
tag1

You got me, forget a snowstorm I won't even go if it's raining and get wet for this team anymore.

dkdk
dkdk

@jepliberty, yeah there are a few with agendas on here to be sure. But the numbers are dwindling by the week. Things can turnaround quickly if we get competent people to run the team. But the only hope is a fan revolt to force wangs handm which probably means forcing the leagues hand to force wangs hand.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@dkdk Hey Dk most of us in here are your, and most everbody else's allies just beware of the Wang Snow lovers, they are treacherous, and will do any bidding asked of them by the 2 jackels in charge.

shamwow
shamwow

@dkdk

We could have taken him (Chuck) down, the way any indignity can be righted: civil disobedience - what if just 10 - 20 fans jumped the boards and held a "sit in" at center ice, refusing to move, and being dragged from the rink; protest: burning Chuck in effigy at the Coliseum entrance while supporters held hands and sang, "We Shall Overcome"; refusal to acquiesce: attending a game, and whole sections of the arena turning their backs to the ice for the full 60 minutes... Sunshine being the best disinfectant - think of the press coverage such acts might garner.

dkdk
dkdk

@sham .... Great to know that you are NoMan, I was wondering where you went. Now I have to relearn who the allies are. I know you already know this, but we need EVERYONE to stop buying the crap from wang and snow. Until that happens nothing will change.

shamwow
shamwow

@dkdk

"Sham Wow" should really be Sham Wang... my former nom de plume being "NoManIsAnIslander"... Keep spreading the word, ie: truth, about Wang, dk

dkdk
dkdk

@shamwow .... I hear ya buddy! Whenever an apologist posts about wang saving the Islanders, I wish it started off with "once upon a time ...." Because it is so based in fiction it isn't funny.

And you know what even if that were factually accurate if this is what saving looks like maybe they should have been left to die then. All this is doing is soiling the legacy that the Arours, Torrey's, Smiths, Bossy's, Trottiers, Potivns, etc built.

shamwow
shamwow

@dkdk

I thought Chuck Wang "Saved the Franchise", "Kept Hockey on Long Island", "Tried to rebuild the hub", walked on water in his spare time?


You know who else stays far from Chuck? Honorable people. Decent people. Humble people... That explains why the Milbury and Snow types stand by his side for years: hubris and arrogance are their only calling cards.

shamwow
shamwow

@Alex Rodriguez @tag1

Alex, baby, the cavalry ain't coming... because there's nothing here worth saving.


This isn't a Hockey Organization, it's just a front for Chuck Wang's latest scheme... You know it, I know it, and League professionals know it... They're not coming here.


And what's next for Chuck? Just more of the same till Bklyn.; then he'll cash the Barclays Boys checks - they've agreed to pay him "Tens of millions a year.", until such time Prokhorov decides he wants to buy a new toy

dkdk
dkdk

@tag and arod

That was also at the time where the rumor was we wanted to interview Quenville and he publicly stated he wasn't interested because he wanted time off. About 2 weeks later he took the Hawks job. Competent people run kicking and screaming away from wang/snow.