Boyle ‘Excited’ at Options, Says Agent

Christian Arnold, Islanders Point Blank:

Time will tell if Dan Boyle will sign with the New York Islanders, but the initial feeling from his camp is that this is an exciting opportunity.

“From the beginning when [Boyle] knew he was not going back to San Jose, he was excited to see what options and possibilities might be out there. It shows that they’re kind of stuck up here and showing a lot of interest,” George Bazos, Boyle’s agent, said in a phone interview with Islanders Point Blank.

The Islanders acquired Boyle’s rights late Thursday afternoon from the San Jose Sharks in exchange for a conditional fourth round pick. Team general manager Garth Snow has already had a brief conversation with Bazos after the trade. “He just told me about the trade and he’s excited at the opportunity to obtain Dan’s rights,” Bazos said.

Boyle has spent the last six seasons with the San Jose Sharks, so he is not as familiar with the Islanders organization. Bazos said that his client will do some research to get a comfort level with the Islanders.

“Right now there’s a lot research and work to be done on both sides,” he said. “He would be excited as much with the Islanders as with any other team at this point.”

Boyle’s agent says that regardless of the team they will be look for a two-year deal, but would not say what the monterey amount is that they are asking for. “The amount is impossible to categorize because it’s not arbitration situation. It’s a free agent situation, so the market will dictate that at some point,” he said.

The Islanders have until July 1 to exclusively negotiate with the soon-to-be 38-year-old defenseman. Last season Boyle recorded 36 points (12 goals,24 assists) in San Jose and would be a major assets to the Islanders struggling power play unit, which lacked a power play quarterback for much of last year.

New York has been down the trade and sign route before this offseason. The Islanders acquired the rights for Jaroslav Halak on May 1 and signed him three weeks later. Snow will now hope that he can find the same luck with Boyle.




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Jayson Love
Jayson Love

this would be finally a real 2-way defenseman.  Loved Streit, but he was limited defensively and who knows what to expect from visnovsky

fourcups
fourcups

I absolutely hope guys are right. I said they would never sign Halak and was wrong. Although, I think the Isles need a younger crease clearer more than Boyle and that I think getting him may prove that nothing has changed, I hope you guys are right.


My real concern is that all we hear is that the sale is a "DONE DEAL". If that were so and they are only waiting until after the play-offs to announce the sale, why would any new owner let a GM make any deals this close to his buying the club.


Bettman told ESPN that he doesn't know if Wang is selling all of the team, part or keeping it. That doesn't rule out a sale but it rules out that the deal is done and NHL approved with the announcement coming in a matter of weeks.

Bettma will hedge, lie, etc but not that blatantly. He's a lawyer so he knows how to dance. He's not going to say he doesn't know if the team is even for sale with the already approved.

So, I predict that the team is not sold and that Wang is going to hang around for a while even though he wants to sell.

Hey they don't call me Dr. Doom for nothing.

Again, I hope I continue to be 100% wrong because if I'm right...nothing has changed.





They the Isles- are  trying to get him here to mentor the vast array of young blue line talent that this team has acquired over the L/4 yrs. He will act like a player coach and will be a big help on the power play. A player of this stature, and age, would like a cup, but now more importantly he must consider what he wants to do as his imminent retirement approaches. So one last top line contract, and the possibility of some type of position after his playing days are over- within a organization are now priorities.

erika
erika

Is he big and is he fast? I think it is good to sign him for a year, but except for Chellios or Salane, I don't know too many players that are effective at age 40, so to commit to 2 or 3 years would be a waste IMO.

since72
since72

This signing may be a bit tougher than with Halak. Boyle may want to be on a cup contender, but who? He was just rejected by one - and he wanted to stay there! Who else? Cup contenders generally are going after D men who are younger and can contribute more than an aging player. And cup contenders are generally already strong on the blue line.  He is more of a deadline aquisition for a cup contender looking to fill a short term need, rather than a free agent signing. Contenders with cup aspirations will focus on Stralman, Niskanen and even Markov.  Boyle will not be their focus. 

For the Islanders, he is worth more than he would be to other teams because of the intangibles.  He will be a mentor to the likes of Hammer, deHaan, Reinhart, Strait and Hickey.  He will be an instant leader on the ice - almost a player coach.  The Islanders have the cap room to sign him for 2 years at a higher rate than others will pay.  He simply has the option to take his time, think about it and sign or not.  Garth has risked a 5th rounder if he doesn't sign, no big deal. 

Also, now you will know whether he signs before the draft.  If a deal needs to be made involving the number 5 pick, a lot may depend upon whether this guy signs or not.  If he doesn't sign, then the trigger may need to be pulled on a trade prior to the draft. 

This is just a good, low risk move. 

cournoyer
cournoyer

You won the Stanley Cup, have two maybe three left and your going to sign with Islanders? Don't slap BOYLE on the back of your blue and orange. Agree with posters who sense that our 5th will be traded for immediate return. Callahan is a shell of former 

Frank Trovato
Frank Trovato

Here is the plan.. Halak.. done.. Boyle.. sign him.. Orpik.. sign him.. Trade the 5th pick, Scott Mayfield and Anders Lee for Eberle.. Lets go Islanders. 

philj
philj

Islanders should target and acquire 2 of the following ($27 Million to spend for upcoming season):

1 Matt Niskanen (27 years old) Defense- 81 GP, 10 G, 36 A, +33, 21.29 TOI

        No explanation needed. Simply best on the market. A must have.

2 Paul Statsny (28 years old) Center- 71 GP, 25 G, 35 A, +9, 18.39 TOI

      Great face off guy who plays both ways extremely well

3 Ryan Callahan (29 years old) Right Wing- 65 GP, 17 G, 19 A, +1, 18.65 TOI

      We have all seen enough of Callahan to know how good he is

4 Jussi Jokinen (31 years old) Left Wing- 81 GP, 21 G, 36 A, +12, 15.70 TOI

       Pure scorer who is responsible defensively

Just my opinion on who we should target considering we are not going to get Vanek or Moulson back

philj
philj

I think the Islanders will sell him like this:  We are only 2 years removed from the playoffs in which we played a tough series with the Penguins.  Last year Tavares got hurt, Vis got hurt, Okposo got hurt, and we were playing with a bunch of call ups at the end of the year.  We already improved our goalie situation.  We are looking to add at least 1 top 6 forward.  We have a plethora of young talent but we need a veteran to lead our defensive core and quarterback the power play.  You have won it all before and with that leadership we feel like we can contend this year as well as next year.


(Opinions on the way I would sell Boyle on the team)


I think Boyle might sign here on a 2 year deal...but he might say something like after you sign a top 6 forward and show me that you are serious about winning this year then come back to me

jrjr
jrjr

Fantastic move - I would love to have Boyle here-

mrcisback
mrcisback

   NHL live commentators said earlier that they doubt that Boyle will sign with the Islanders. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

firecappy
firecappy

I think this is a great move.  If Boyle signs he isn't here to be the savior.  He is here to do what has been needed for the last couple of years:  mentor guys like Hamonic.  

Vasili
Vasili

It's possible Snow is spending knowing that a possible sale is close!

cginsc
cginsc

I think Boyle would be fine in an Isles uni.  There really isn't a whole lot to look at in the UFA d-man market this offseason.  It would help the PP to have an experienced right handed point guy. NYI had a whole 23 goals last season from the blue liners, and a whole 8 from them on the PP. I have only one issue with Boyle and it's his 5 on 5 ice time.  He was the only d-man on SJ with a minus rating. They were 6th in goals per game and had the 6th best 5 on 5 goals for ratio. For him to manage a -8 , while 3 others had double digit pluses seems odd.  He did average 21 mins a night, which may not have been great for him.  But, it shows he can still log the minutes if needed.  Either way, we are not getting Niskanen so Boyle is likely the best we can possibly hope for going the UFA route.  For all that knock him for his age,  quit yer bitching, would you rather have A-Mac back on the team with a slapper windup slower than a senior league softball pitcher? Boyle is an immediate upgrade over guys like Carkner, Martinek, Ness, Strait, and Czuczman, and will be for the 2 yrs he signs for (maybe). 


Garth still needs to fix the glaring problem in net. I am still hoping we can get Greiss from PHX, or maybe Gustavsson from DET as a backup.  I'm not even opposed to Bryzgalov on a short deal. He showed he still has something to offer playing in Minny, and we're a sucker for a long-shot/reclamation project .  Nabby if all else fails and willing to take a pay cut. Wouldn't want him starting more than 20 games.  But, we must wait until 7/1 unless Garth continues to throw out all our late round picks for negotiating rights.


Sadly, the NYI finished in the bottom of the league in goals against, 5-on-5 scoring ratio, PK%, and face offs.  Much of this I believe starts and ends with losing every damn draw, initial puck possession, then the inability to get it the hell out of our own end.  While this is a team sport and collective failure, a few changes in personnel will hopefully right the ship.  If I was to hope Garth pushed for one UFA forward, it would be Paul Stastny. He plays a 200 ft game, and actually wins draws (yes, I know that is a team stat in reality).  But he would be a legit #2 center and let Franz play 3rd line center where he belongs. Yes, he had a stellar season, but I think he can be even better on the 3rd line, playing lesser opposition. If the other team has to worry about JT's line and maybe Stastny's line first. It would also allow Franz to play better minutes on the PK and maybe get back to getting more SHG's with Grabs. I think Hammer will realize he is not Bobby Orr, and stick to concentrating on D, and hopefully Reinhart can make the bottom pair and play some tough, dependable, and crease clearing D.  If CdH can continue to improve over the summer, the d-men should be vastly better than last year. Maybe Viz can avoid having his bell rung one last time and make for a good last run in an Isles uniform.  


Bailey.... I feel bad knocking him, because he's a good kid.  Garth, if there's a player in dire need of a "change of scenery" trade, it's him.  He had a par season as far as points go, but definitely could have put more pucks on net and possibly a few more in them to boot.  The hideous turnovers, lackadaisical back-checking, ...good lord.  He needs a new address. I'm sure the same can be said for several NHL'ers like David Booth or "gulp" David Clarkson.. Either way, we still have a buyout to use right??


I am happy for the attempt to get Boyle. More so if he signs. Maybe Garth is going to try and ice an NHL team this year in an effort to keep his job if Overlord Chucky sells.  What do you guys think? For those that still need to complain... I realize being the butt of a joke for 20+ years has gotten old, but this is something new. This off season and coming season may actually hold promise! Kinda like an abused animal suddenly given something resembling love. It does not know how to react just yet..


To ripoff a quote from that old poet Andrew Dice Clay...


To be a fan of the New York Islanders for me has been like masturbating with a cheese grater. Somewhat interesting, but mostly..painful"


Dallas MacDonald
Dallas MacDonald

To me this is a guy I wanted. Team Canada was still looking at this guy for the Olympic team. He has a Stanley Cup, he knows what it takes to play for a winner, and he is not a slouch defensively. It has been stated he wants at least a two year deal long before he was traded to the Islanders. So to me he has two ways of looking at free agency: one, he tries to sign with someone who is a contender now or two, he signs another good contract for the most term and money. The second scenario the Islanders can fulfill. Maybe only Colorado can provide both options. If Garth threw a three year deal on the table at say 5, 6, and 3.5 mil he might take it. We can offer him the extra year. If he were to retire before the deal's end (35 and over deal) it would still count against the cap and the Islanders never spend to the cap in the first place. So what is the harm?

Another wise move to see that we are serious to Boyle, might be to throw another 4th or 5th rounder out there for another player they might want to get on JULY 1st. It shows you are eager to improve the team and willing to spend the money on others as well. 

Go Tama
Go Tama

ANYONE who saw Boyle play last year saw a guy that has lost a step and just isn't that good anymore

Victor Barros
Victor Barros

Let's hope he stays...He'd be a good acquisition to mentor the younger guys, and I'm sure he can still play!!

fourcups
fourcups

This thing make me fear that nothing will change including the ownership. Boyle is not big, never was physical and is 37 years old. Why? One reason probably is that Visnovsky is done. At least that makes this deal reasonable. The Isles need a top 4 D-Man with size who best play is in the D zone. What they don't need is ANY 37,38,39 year old player. 


There is probably no reason for me to be concerned because Boyle's agent has basically said, he's not coming here. Look at the different response from Halak when he was given the chance to come. He was excited about possibly coming to LI. Boyle's agent says his guy is as excited about going to the Isles as he would be about going to any new team. Further, Boyle is going to have to research the Islanders. How many people will he have to ask before hearing "STAY AWAY!" "WANG DOESN'T CARE ABOUT WINNING.), etc.? As one of you guys said Boyle fits only with a solid contender NOT a young team....much less a young totally mismanaged team.


More typical Snow/Wang THINK.

isles23
isles23

Yet again, stop reading between the lines. You see what you want, nothing more.

Don22
Don22

@erika Fast, good skater.  Not very big - 5'11/190 I think.  Can run the powerplay.  But I think the biggest asset is what many have said here - be a mentor to some of these young guys and be a guy that can settle them down when things get sticky.   By no means is he a shutdown d guy or the answer to what ails us.  But he, along with Halak can help avoid some of the blown leads and help lessen, if not avoid the all too common November swoon.  If anything, he is stability and leadership.

since72
since72

@erika You don't get him unless u commit 2 years.  It's the cost of doing business.  Consider him a coach the 2nd year is the skill level declines sharply.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@since72 

With Garth giving up all these picks and not signing the sought after players, will leave the cupboard a bit bare.

slapshot18_rs
slapshot18_rs

@since72 im not sure sure.  boyle is a good player and at his age, he very well could be willing to take a little less money to play with a true cup contender.  every team looks to make moves in the offseason, even the team that wins the cup - so i dont think any of us here really know who could use him given all of the variables in play.  i do think your last point is spot on though - whether he signs or not could determine what we do with our first round pick...whether its keep it, trade for a forward, or trade for a dman. 

topshelf
topshelf

@since72 Also cup contenders generally don't make moves for 38 yr olds until the trade deadline.  and don't have the cap space to waste on a full season of older defense man that might get hurt playing 84 games, better to sit back for the trade deadline.  For the islanders, good move! Leadership, skill and it shows other FA that this is a place that you can play.  


On another note...I know some guys hate the move to Brooklyn. But, i believe this is the main selling point right now. New packed arena, loud as the NVC was in the 80's and early 90's.  Sight lines are not great for everyone, but they are fine for the players.  They want to play in front of a packed house.  Also i had a chance to see the facilities (locker rooms, workout area and even medical area) first hand and they are top notch.  I think Garth gets it done!


P.S. it could also do with the pending sale as someone else mentioned

doc942
doc942

@philj I don't like the idea of trying to sign Callahan.  He's not worth the 7 million a year that he's looking for.  Statsny wants 50+ million to sign.  That's not happening eiher. I like your idea of Jokinen or Niskanen, they would be perfect for this team.  

Frank Trovato
Frank Trovato

@philj The only one they will have a ghost of a chance of signing is Jokinen.... I have a hunch they Islanders trade that 5th pick and try and get Eberle in a package including the pick and two prospects, one forward and one defense. Stick Eberle with JT... watch the magic. This one year rental LW with JT has to stop and it has to stop now. 

Don22
Don22

@philj I would consider Brooks Orpik over Niskanen.  Although 5 years older, he brings more of a defensive presence and leadership presence.  


Frank Trovato
Frank Trovato

@philj It will come down to money. If Boyle gets what he asks for he will sign. If he thinks he can get more on the open market than the Islanders offer, then he wont. 

Chris Molloy
Chris Molloy

@philj  How would he know the Isles will sign a top 6 forward until he is allowed to negotiate with every team. By then he will be offered more money by better teams, plus the Isles have problems getting top talent in free agency. 

dzruggie
dzruggie

@philj I was one who said he would be a better fit on a contender.  Good pitch...

gowhale
gowhale

Yea. And JT is Toronto bound. They're just talking heads sometimes.

Don22
Don22

@mrcisback I don't want to say I doubt he will sign, but I am less confident than with Halak.  I still like the trade though.

gowhale
gowhale

Excellent point on Boyle the right-handler. Today's GM's don't place as much value on a player's shooting hand. But as anyone who plays on any level knows, positioning and goal scoring is dependent on it, particularly in rebound situations.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@cginsc 

Got a better one from George Burns, at the age of 90 something, he said " Having sex at my age, is like shooting pool with a rope.

gowhale
gowhale

He's 37. He has a cup. Pay him and he'll be here.

cginsc
cginsc

@fourcups Just as Halak spoke to his buddy Viz about signing, maybe Nabby is in Boyle's ear. They were team mates for two years before Nabby came here. And Nabby didn't want to come here either at first, as we all remember.  

doc942
doc942

@fourcups umm... When did Boyle's agent say "he's not coming here"...?  Now you're making stuff up.  Do you really think people are telling other players to "stay away"...?  It seems that most that come here, want to stay here. 


fourcups
fourcups

I hope you guys are right.

isles23
isles23

I can't say for certain but I'm willing to bet that you are one of the people who said there was no chance halak would sign here. I've said it before and I'll say it again, trying to read between the lines is pointless because it becomes a case of beauty being in the eye of the beholder.

erika
erika

@Don22 @erika Thanks for the info, Don. I heard his name many times, but have not seen him play that much.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@Don22 @erika 

If he does have that attribute of being the guy to 'settle things down' when things go wrong on the ice, then Cappy needs to give him some slack and allow him to be the mouthpiece to the rest of the team.

shlo
shlo

@slapshot18_rs @since72 It's time for a reality check for him. None of us wants to admit that even when the brain tells you to do something, the body does not react so fast and the body cannot do exactly what it use to do. He is not going to a cup contender for all the reasons stated by some of you earlier.

As far as the pick, if Snow likes Ritchie he'll trade down to get him, I'll just take the best available player.

Don22
Don22

@Frank Trovato @philj Don't disagree with you regarding a wing for JT, but that is probably 3rd on the "needs" list.  1st is a veteran defenseman - preferably a defensive type guy,but Boyle will do if he signs.  2nd is secondary scoring.  The JT line even with a rental will continue to score.  3rd would be a wing for JT.  I might even put that 4th behind a solid backup goalie.


We have a lot of needs and I doubt all of them can be filled in one off season.  They got the #1 goalie in.  That's a good start.

philj
philj

@Chris Molloy @philj Have a clause in the contract that would void said contract unless a top 6 forward is signed

Don22
Don22

@dzruggie @philj I'm not so confident he will sign here.  I feel at his age he is going to want to play for a contender.  The problem will be, is there  a contender that is willing to pick him up?  San Jose sounds like they may be breaking things down just a little, but they are still a contender.  You have to think the other big time teams are fairly set at D, so where does he go?  Maybe Pitt at a lesser contract if they let Orpik and/or Niskanen go.   Who else is there?  Not LA.  Not NYR.   Not CHI or BOS.  Maybe Anaheim?

philj
philj

@dzruggie @philj They had the best offensive line for the month they had Vanek.  They are one top-6 winger, one shut down defender (not including Boyle) from being cup contenders.


Nabokov would be a good back up playing in 20 games to keep him fresh and at a top level given his age.  A better back up would be a bonus but not necessary.

isles23
isles23

@fourcups. Look I'm not sayin its a definte he signs, just don't read too much into things the agent says at this point

Don22
Don22

@jepliberty @Don22 @erika I don;t see Cappy having any muzzle on him, or anyone for that matter.  He just doesn't have that guy in his lineup right now.  JT is a good captain because he is a team leader, but he doesn't command a locker room - at least not that I've heard.  I see him more as a leader by example.

Don22
Don22

@jepliberty @Don22 @dzruggie @philj Sure, but are they really a contender?  Playoff team maybe, but I wouldn't consider them a team that can vie for the cup in the next 2 years.